elgringo - this guy also makes a point to say that the knee is across the belly, not across the chest
isn't that wrong too? Shouldn't the knee be higher up on the chest to get more power from the sweep? also, having the knee be low on the belly like that sets you up for a leg weave pass.
this guy is a black belt under Ricardo Teixeria
I think that this is where you get the most difference on the variations. I've been taught both ways. I thought that this is where most of the argument was gonna be. My feeling is that if you have the timing (he's leaning into you) and weight coming up on you, keeping the shin across the waste is better as it seems to give better sweep rotation, but it leaves you susceptible to having your legs sprawled on if the other guy has good base. I've often wondered if the knee across the chest variation became more acceptable but is really compensating for not properly setting up the shin across the waste. Although the knee across chest itself can be nicely used to bait the guy to come towards you and you can drop it to his waste.
andre - var so = new SWFObject("http://www.youtube.com/v/eu6YRNVrWAA&hl=en&fs=1&", "postVideo-26969326-Flash", "425", "355", "9.0.28", "##000"); so.addParam("allowScriptAccess", "samedomain"); so.addParam("allowNetworking", "internal"); so.addParam("wmode", "transparent"); so.write("postVideo-26969326"); I dont understand why you couldnt keep the same choking grip for the armlock transition. I really dont see any benefit to grabbing the wrong side collar like that. Does anyone else do it that way?
Both knee positions work. I find when teaching new guys, it is easier to show them knee across the belly first, then when they have got the gross movements down, add in the knee in chest variation. Sometimes too many details can confuse a brand new guy.
As far as the video, if the guy is a legit Blackbelt, I have to give him the benefit of the doubt that the video was a result of him not thinking out the move before filming or being nervous on camera. I have brain farted and showed a move wrong before. Maybe I am in the minority, but I am human and make mistakes every once in a while.
elgringo - this guy also makes a point to say that the knee is across the belly, not across the chest
isn't that wrong too? Shouldn't the knee be higher up on the chest to get more power from the sweep? also, having the knee be low on the belly like that sets you up for a leg weave pass.
this guy is a black belt under Ricardo Teixeria
I think that this is where you get the most difference on the variations. I've been taught both ways. I thought that this is where most of the argument was gonna be. My feeling is that if you have the timing (he's leaning into you) and weight coming up on you, keeping the shin across the waste is better as it seems to give better sweep rotation, but it leaves you susceptible to having your legs sprawled on if the other guy has good base. I've often wondered if the knee across the chest variation became more acceptable but is really compensating for not properly setting up the shin across the waste. Although the knee across chest itself can be nicely used to bait the guy to come towards you and you can drop it to his waste.
Great post. This is the reason I didnt criticize the knee placement. I really dont have a problem with it. It can go at an angle, depending on the situation, or across the waist.
Watch a number of the guy's video and unless you are new to BJJ you come away with the strong impression he is a TERRIBLE teacher.
He also seems not to want to demonstrate the techniques and when he does show a part of a technique, it's always at least little "off". I'm not nitpicking details either, there are a number of ways to do every technique, but his are always just... not good.
What shen said. At the end of the day, the guy seems like a bad teacher. Somehow I don't see him considering any of the good points that were brought up in this thread.
Regarding the first video, White Belts shouldn't be demonstrating techniques. He obviously didn't have a good grasp of this basic technique, and the black belt instructor is just being lazy.
And I like knee across the chest, rather than across the belly. I can use it to help me lift the opponent up a little bit, thus losing their lower base, before scissoring them over. That adjustment has made a world of difference in my scissor sweeps especially when trying to do it on bigger opponents.
honestly, about the only good things I've found on expert village were sambosteve's sambo techs. any judo or bjj stuff I see there has been.... lacking.
I get more leverage from the scissor sweep when I pull the sleeve and 'look' in the same direction (over my shoulder). Guess that's also a preference.
One thing that's also critical. No matter the power of your your pull, the scissor sweep works best when the opponent's tries to pass your guard and puts one leg up.
You can almost never use the scissor sweep as a first strike attack. Because it's too easy for the opponent to see it coming and drop his hips.
It's the perfect counterattack sweep, and as a set up for pretty much EVERY submission you can think of.
Daniel / Carlson Gracie Holland
... wouldn't it be cool to pick ONE move, like the scissor sweep, and have everyone shoot THEIR favorite version and post it here. So we can compare styles???
enemymaker - ... wouldn't it be cool to pick ONE move, like the scissor sweep, and have everyone shoot THEIR favorite version and post it here. So we can compare styles???
Andre would not approve. Dude loves to criticize everyone and tell the world how horrible their technique is, but he would never risk subjecting himself to the same criticism.
bonez05 - to give this guy the benefit of the doubt, the expert village clips cover everything from cooking to brazilian jiu jitsu, i think they are meant as a guide to complete n00bs. So maybe he was he wasn't trying to teach a detailed scissor sweep, maybe he was just trying to give a casual viewer the basic idea.
but that being said, its complete garbage :)
what??? So,if you're gonna take the time to film it and have people see it why would you teach it shitty?Did it save you time?
elgringo - this guy also makes a point to say that the knee is across the belly, not across the chest
isn't that wrong too? Shouldn't the knee be higher up on the chest to get more power from the sweep? also, having the knee be low on the belly like that sets you up for a leg weave pass.
this guy is a black belt under Ricardo Teixeria
I think that this is where you get the most difference on the variations. I've been taught both ways. I thought that this is where most of the argument was gonna be. My feeling is that if you have the timing (he's leaning into you) and weight coming up on you, keeping the shin across the waste is better as it seems to give better sweep rotation, but it leaves you susceptible to having your legs sprawled on if the other guy has good base. I've often wondered if the knee across the chest variation became more acceptable but is really compensating for not properly setting up the shin across the waste. Although the knee across chest itself can be nicely used to bait the guy to come towards you and you can drop it to his waste.
its the waste,and if he has good base ,you kick the knee out.
enemymaker - ... wouldn't it be cool to pick ONE move, like the scissor sweep, and have everyone shoot THEIR favorite version and post it here. So we can compare styles???
Andre would not approve. Dude loves to criticize everyone and tell the world how horrible their technique is, but he would never risk subjecting himself to the same criticism.
Collar side is not nearly as important as emphasizing off balancing and pulling the guy forward and off his heels. Shin across the belt line is also acceptable as a basic method.
I learned the scissor from the same person Mike Yanez learned from so it's not surprising that I remember leaning back and looking over my shoulder too... Jorge Popovitch. Great teacher.