Thomson: Fighters above 155 not as good

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                    <p>They say the hardest part is not getting to the UFC, it&#39;s staying in the UFC. And Josh Thomson believes that job is a lot harder fighters 155 lbs. and below:</p>

"This is what I say -- when you go up in weight, you should be saying it to those guys.  Because those guys all have weaknesses. You hit 185, 205, and heavyweight, those guys are always just good at like one thing, two things, but they're not great all the way around.  There's ways to finish them.  So if you're a well-rounded athlete, you can finish those guys.  You can find ways to finish those guys," Thomson explained.

"With 55-pounders and below, good luck, man.  Everybody's good all around -- they're good wrestlers, they're good jiu-jitsu guys, they're good standup guys, they're game to throw down and they're always in shape.  170 is kind of like the limbo -- like there's some well-rounded guys in there.  GSP was the champion so long because he was the most well-rounded and usually in the best shape.  But that's kind of like the whole new guy -- that's why Rory MacDonald does well. He's in shape, he's got pretty good jiu-jitsu, he's hard to take down but he's got good standup.  He's well-rounded with good shape. Those are the guys that are hard to beat."

Thomson looks at the bigger weight classes as the less evolved when it comes to the best fighters in the sport.  He's not saying they aren't talented -- he's just saying they aren't as talented as the fighters competing at 155-pounds and below.

"You start getting in the 185's, 205, heavyweight, they start being one-dimensional, two-dimensional fighters.  They're not mixed martial artists.  They're not as good as the 55-pounders and below," Thomson said.  "They're just not.  To me that's just a fact."

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I think he has a point. I know there are a lot of insecure guys here who hate on the lighter weights but realistically they are the most skilled. I think they are becoming some of the most entertaining as well. It seems they always put on a show standing or on the ground. Lots of back and forth with lots of scrambles. What can be better?

Preach it Josh! I'm a 145er so I like this thread lol. Phone Post 3.0

so many ways to finish Weidman, Bones, Cain...

Overall he's right Phone Post 3.0

Guys of any size can end a fight

forrestfan - so many ways to finish Weidman, Bones, Cain...
Those are the champs, he's talking about the division as a whole Phone Post 3.0

Josh is right ......145 to 175 got the best fighters

If he is so good then why doesn't he go up to HW and beat them all up?

RadiO - Josh is right ......145 to 175 got the best fighters

>145 to 175 got the best fighters

The best fighters are the ones who would win an open weight tournament.

He's right. But one punch from those huge guys can end anyone.

I think the point is if you shrunk down a guy like jds he isn't going to be elite at lw. And it's true.

The percentage if elite mixed martial artists tends to go down the higher you go up in weight.

Guys are sloppily and have more holes.

For example at my the top 5 to 7 are all very well rounded. Once you get out of that realm they get pretty one dimensional imo.

I love to watch them fight but if a guy had Josh Thompsons skills at 6ft 3 245 lbs he'd destroy cain. Phone Post 3.0

HerschelHWGOAT - 
RadiO - Josh is right ......145 to 175 got the best fighters

>145 to 175 got the best fighters

The best fighters are the ones who would win an open weight tournament.


Like Royce?

Anderson was a horrible fighter. ... Phone Post 3.0

AldoErasedMyAnswer - 
HerschelHWGOAT - 
RadiO - Josh is right ......145 to 175 got the best fighters

>145 to 175 got the best fighters

The best fighters are the ones who would win an open weight tournament.


Like Royce?

In that time period Royce was the best fighter. In modern times you need to be at least 205 to even have a chance to be considered the best fighter.

Imagine JDS vs Demetrious Johnson, if Demetrious is the better fighter, then he should win.

Welcome to the mighty mouse era, he's the P4P G.O.A.T. The ufc open weight champion. Current 8 division champ. 9 if he beats Rhonda in December.

I might add though. When the strawweights come in. All hell will be let loose. Tecia Torres will be a myth be the end of it all. She will take Dan hendos place as the most accomplished fighter of all time. Phone Post 3.0

RadiO - Josh is right ......145 to 175 got the best fighters
175? Phone Post 3.0

HerschelHWGOAT -
AldoErasedMyAnswer - 
HerschelHWGOAT - 
RadiO - Josh is right ......145 to 175 got the best fighters

>145 to 175 got the best fighters

The best fighters are the ones who would win an open weight tournament.


Like Royce?

In that time period Royce was the best fighter. In modern times you need to be at least 205 to even have a chance to be considered the best fighter.

Imagine JDS vs Demetrious Johnson, if Demetrious is the better fighter, then he should win.
I don't think mm beats jds but I can see Josh Thompson beating a if hw. Like guto inocente Phone Post 3.0

caseharts -
HerschelHWGOAT -
AldoErasedMyAnswer - 
HerschelHWGOAT - 
RadiO - Josh is right ......145 to 175 got the best fighters

>145 to 175 got the best fighters

The best fighters are the ones who would win an open weight tournament.


Like Royce?

In that time period Royce was the best fighter. In modern times you need to be at least 205 to even have a chance to be considered the best fighter.

Imagine JDS vs Demetrious Johnson, if Demetrious is the better fighter, then he should win.
I don't think mm beats jds but I can see Josh Thompson beating a if hw. Like guto inocente Phone Post 3.0
You don't think ? Lol its not even a question. Phone Post 3.0

Agree with Josh 100%

TheAxeMurderer84 -
caseharts -
HerschelHWGOAT -
AldoErasedMyAnswer - 
HerschelHWGOAT - 
RadiO - Josh is right ......145 to 175 got the best fighters

>145 to 175 got the best fighters

The best fighters are the ones who would win an open weight tournament.


Like Royce?

In that time period Royce was the best fighter. In modern times you need to be at least 205 to even have a chance to be considered the best fighter.

Imagine JDS vs Demetrious Johnson, if Demetrious is the better fighter, then he should win.
I don't think mm beats jds but I can see Josh Thompson beating a if hw. Like guto inocente Phone Post 3.0
You don't think ? Lol its not even a question. Phone Post 3.0
That's why I said Josh could . Phone Post 3.0