I don't believe that having your corner throw in the towel is a reflection on a fighters courage or heart.
Some guys are simply too fucking tough for their own good. Guys like JDS, Hunto, Diego, Shogun ect. have the ability to override or disregard the primitive instinct of self preservation and survival.
IMO it's a corners responsibility to protect their charge's safety and to intelligently assess whether or not the risk is worth the reward.
It was tough seeing Hunto take that beating and I found myself wishing for that towel to make its way over the cage. Hope he makes a speedy recovery.
War HUNT! 
Of course they should have thrown it in. The dual safety net of the corner and referee failed miserably in those fights 
GongandDash - Of course they should have thrown it in. The dual safety net of the corner and referee failed miserably in those fightsHistorically there has always been a stigma attached to guys quitting on their stool and the throwing of towels.
I don't think the two should be held in the same regard. When a towel is thrown it is not the decision of the fighter and he should be immune from any second guessing because of a decision made by his corner.
Straydog24 -A fighter should never be looked down upon because he quits. They are as human as the rest of us.GongandDash - Of course they should have thrown it in. The dual safety net of the corner and referee failed miserably in those fightsHistorically there has always been a stigma attached to guys quitting on their stool and the throwing of towels.
I don't think the two should be held in the same regard. When a towel is thrown it is not the decision of the fighter and he should be immune from any second guessing because of a decision made by his corner.
Soonersownhorns4life -I agree that they are as human as the rest of us but fighters possess something that the overwhelming majority of people don't. They have the ability to push themselves physically and mentally beyond what seems possible. It is what separates them from us.Straydog24 -A fighter should never be looked down upon because he quits. They are as human as the rest of us.GongandDash - Of course they should have thrown it in. The dual safety net of the corner and referee failed miserably in those fightsHistorically there has always been a stigma attached to guys quitting on their stool and the throwing of towels.
I don't think the two should be held in the same regard. When a towel is thrown it is not the decision of the fighter and he should be immune from any second guessing because of a decision made by his corner.
It is what makes a guy like JDS get off his stool round after round while sustaining a beating that would break 99.9% of other men. Don't fool yourself thinking that what fighters do is common or anything average.
The fighter has no perspective on the situation. Both Hunt and JDS have the mindset of "yeah, he may be ahead right now, but all I need to do is land 1 clean shot and it's over". That is exactly the right attitude you want your fighter to have.
However, as the cornerman your job is to say, my guy is taking too much damage and I am not willing to let him go through another round on the off chance he might land a clean shot. Granted, most of the damage Hunt took was pitter-patter superficial damage, but it was still not needed.
Basically the person who is most at fault for last night was Miocic's coach. He clearly has taught him nothing on the ground. Stipe had an opponent who gassed halfway through the second round and could not submit him for the next 3 rounds. If that doesn't make him want to find a new coach, nothing will.
Corner's forget it's not ONLY the ref's job to protect the fighter. Their obligation to their fighter (and, more importantly, friend) is much greater, IMO.
Corner men need to take responsibility for their position as the fighter's second.
Needs to happen more often. Should have been stopped between the 4th and 5th rounds last night.
Sometimes you have to save a fighter from himself.
i know for me i wouldnt quit so in these cases you have to have a corner man that knows when enough is a enough cuz people with this mind set never feel the fight is out of reach and pride is also a big thing. if you left it up to some of these guys they would die in the cage rather than quit which i have massive respect for but as said the corner man needs to know when is enough. that beating last night warranted the corner man to throw the towel in no doubt.
Isn't it illegal to throw in the towel now? Pretty sure I read that it was. Going to see if I can find it again.
gsp dark place - i know for me i wouldnt quit so in these cases you have to have a corner man that knows when enough is a enough cuz people with this mind set never feel the fight is out of reach and pride is also a big thing. if you left it up to some of these guys they would die in the cage rather than quit which i have massive respect for but as said the corner man needs to know when is enough. that beating last night warranted the corner man to throw the towel in no doubt."I know for me I wouldn't quit". Lol please tell me you are at least an amateur fighter and have some experience?
Straydog24 -Well said.Soonersownhorns4life -I agree that they are as human as the rest of us but fighters possess something that the overwhelming majority of people don't. They have the ability to push themselves physically and mentally beyond what seems possible. It is what separates them from us.Straydog24 -A fighter should never be looked down upon because he quits. They are as human as the rest of us.GongandDash - Of course they should have thrown it in. The dual safety net of the corner and referee failed miserably in those fightsHistorically there has always been a stigma attached to guys quitting on their stool and the throwing of towels.
I don't think the two should be held in the same regard. When a towel is thrown it is not the decision of the fighter and he should be immune from any second guessing because of a decision made by his corner.
It is what makes a guy like JDS get off his stool round after round while sustaining a beating that would break 99.9% of other men. Don't fool yourself thinking that what fighters do is common or anything average.
Live to fight another day.
The Green Bastard -gsp dark place - i know for me i wouldnt quit so in these cases you have to have a corner man that knows when enough is a enough cuz people with this mind set never feel the fight is out of reach and pride is also a big thing. if you left it up to some of these guys they would die in the cage rather than quit which i have massive respect for but as said the corner man needs to know when is enough. that beating last night warranted the corner man to throw the towel in no doubt."I know for me I wouldn't quit". Lol please tell me you are at least an amateur fighter and have some experience?
hah i knew that sounded a bit fucked on my part but ive been in fight or flight situations and my reaction is always to fight. my bad for sounding like a hard ass. hah
All good posts boys. The warrior soul is what sets these guys apart and is the true mark of a champion. It's the ref and the corner that must ensure the fighters welfare.
The Green Bastard - Isn't it illegal to throw in the towel now? Pretty sure I read that it was. Going to see if I can find it again.It is illegal and serves the purpose of stopping the fight.
If Hunts corner called it quits, nobody would have looked at Hunt any different. The guy is like the damn Terminator. Sometimes people have to save you from yourself. He is just too tough for his own good.
Nick Diaz threw in the towel as the fight between Josh Thompson and his brother was being stopped, good stoppage but a lesser ref may have let it go on longer and Nick and the rest of Nate's corner knew it was over. I'd like to see that happen more often.
Yea throw it in in cases where the fighter safety is concerned. We all love a war but live to fight another day. Nothing at all to be ashamed of