To hopefully avoid another repeat, this fight SHOULD be at HW. If Tito isn't afraid of Ken why won't he move up in weight? Afraid that he could lose to a bigger Ken?
Dana, if this third fight is going to happen, make it interesting for us. Also, put Big John in there this time.
Then again, a HW fight with these two probably makes too much sense for the UFC.
I totally agree. They both fight at around 215, yet Tito still insists on fighting at 205 because he knows he's more experienced at cutting weight. Give the old man a break.
I think it's almost "cowardly" that Tito does not accept the 215 weight limit. We all know that he can handle the old man rather easily at 205 where Ken has little strength. Hell, if he were a real man, he'd go with 225 and face the same Ken that Fujita, Frye and Kimo faced.
You know what, Tito......
You ain't up for it buddy. You ain't now and you never will be. And when the day comes that you are 40+ and you got a young stud drooling at the thought of how many elbows he can bust you with before the fight gets stopped, you'll not be the man Ken is and STEP up and fight like a man. I think you'll cower down when that day comes.
You all realize that this isn't 2002 anymore, Ken is smaller then Tito. Have any of you heard Ken asking for this to be at a catch weight?
"You ain't up for it buddy. You ain't now and you never will be. And when the day comes that you are 40+ and you got a young stud drooling at the thought of how many elbows he can bust you with before the fight gets stopped, you'll not be the man Ken is and STEP up and fight like a man. I think you'll cower down when that day comes."
Agreed Tito will likely have some dignity and will have managed his finances in such a way that he won't have to humiliate himself like this.
Ken has had two chances to finish Tito. Why should Tito bow down to any request that Ken makes? HE SHOULD'T. If Ken wants to fight Tito, then KEN needs to make weight. It's that easy.
Tito is A) scared of Ken at 225, and B) smart enough to know that Ken Shamrock wants to fight him so badly that he'll come down to Tito's weight.
We all know that come fight time Tito will be 225 lbs, but Ken will only be 208 or so. Big advantage for the coward Tito, and Ken is stupid enough to allow it.
I agree that this fight should be at heavyweight. I really don't see why Tito is afraid of fighting at a catch weight of 215lbs? Hughes fought Gracie at one and looked what happened. Tito will still win but it would be interested seeing what Ken can do with a an extra 10lbs on his frame. He would defanately be much stronger without having to cut, that's why Tito demands this fight to be at 205, he knows Ken loses all his strength when he cuts weight.
Actually yeah Tito is afraid of Ken. He's afraid to fight him at both their natural weights and that's a fact. He went apeshit when Ken weighed in at 206 for their last fight...so yeah Tito is afraid to fight Ken at 220lbs. I have no idea why?
Ken is 42 years old and way past his prime, why won't you step up to 220 lbs FUTA1?
Tito is VERY smart and should be given much more credit for his patience and strategizing skills.
A few years back, Tito festered Ken into wanting to fight him really really bad........BUT, Tito did NOT fight him then......he waited!
He drug his feet and stalled and stalled and waited for a few years to pass. He knew full well that Ken wanted to fight him bad enough, that he would cut down to 205 to do it, and that this would be an awful big task for a 40+ year old man.......
RESULT:
Tito/Ken 1......Paid off BigTime!!!
Tito/Ken 2......Paid off BigTime!!!
Tito/Ken 3...??????....C'mon Tito, make it a little bit exciting for the fans, would you????