TRT and Pain Killers

Why are the two similar?

Here is why.

1. People need pain killers and there are people who legit need stuff like Opana, OxyContin, etc.

2. Those who abused the drugs and simply went to doctors claiming "my back hurts" to get scripts changed public perception as suddenly the growing sentiment was such drugs are evil or should be banned.

1. There are those who need TRT. LEGIT.

2. There are those who have simply told a doctor or an unscrupulous aging clinic the "my sex drive is lower and I don't enjoy life anymore" and gotten a script. Some have abused.

As a result there are folks talking like TRT is bad.

Assholes fucked up painkillers for those who need them and those same assholes are turning TRT into the same thing.

Both have legit therapeutic uses but have been victimized by those who have abused the drugs or sought them out through unscrupulous and often illegal measures while being legal on the surface (pill mills in Florida, TRT doctors everywhere).

So, for every person who legit can't move without a pain killer; you can thank the 25 year old who abused Oxys and made it so no Doctor wants to write you a script lest he get viewed as being a bad guy or enabling the collective problem.

For every man who legit can't get an erection in his 20's and 30's who has zero energy and LEGIT issues with his endocrine system who needs TRT; you can thank athletes when doctors are trying to give you Testim and Androgel instead of shots because of the hubbub with such.

Because it's coming.

Painkillers weren't always bad.

But people are.

Just like not everyone with a stub toe needs Opana, not every fucking fighter needs TRT.

TRT wasnt always bad, either.

People are, however and get ready as athletes are going to do for TRT what overdosing college kids did for Oxy.

It's coming.

The two aren't dissimilar.

The drugs aren't bad nor do they need to be banned.

It's just the guys who don't really need them are making it tough on those who do thanks to the broad stroke of public perception. Phone Post

I guarantee any UFC fighter over age 30 could get tested and be on the low end of normal testosterone production.

Which means they ALL could get TRT exemptions.

Does this really mean they need it?

Low end of normal is NOT LOW.

It's low end of normal.

Just like having a sore back doesn't mean you should get Opana.

Yeah, your back hurts but there is a difference between a sore back and a back that is ravaged and prevents you from even walking about without pain daily.

Same with T levels as fighters who can achieve muscle growth and strength gains commensurate with being a pro athlete aren't hardly sausage titted low T men who shamefully can't make love to their wives or have the energy to do anything on weekends.

But the problem was everyone who claimed back pain started getting pills from all sources.

Well, now it's going to be "I need TRT" from everyone.

Same bullshit, different drugs, yet another instance of people taking advantage of things only for everyone to end up blaming the drug when it spirals out of control.

It's never the drug.

It is the abuse or misuse and the people who do so that are the problem and they fuck it up for those who really do. Phone Post


what is facilitating this epidemic is the fact that the same people that "define" what is a "normal " range of test producion are the same ones selling the products.

so dont hate on the meth and crack dealers in your neighborhood just because they dont wear labcoats and like to be fisted

^^they are in the same business

butthurt for my frankie - 

Trust me. They are. Phone Post


no one is arguing with you. what you say is TRUE.

I just got some massive cold sweats when I read the word Opana...

Voted up just for the sheer effort of typing out all that from your phone.

This is a really poor analogy, not the least of which is that you're using the athletic commission's definition of illegal for TRT and the criminal justice system's definition of illegal for painkillers.

The pharmacies have found a new way to become steroid dealers.

 

So don't worry, everyone that "needs" it will be able to get it no problem.

 

Just like pain killers,  

 

the Dr. Is the dealer, Pharmacy company is the supplier,  

 

 

Ghost of Retard - 


The pharmacies have found a new way to become steroid dealers.



 



So don't worry, everyone that "needs" it will be able to get it no problem.



 



Just like pain killers,  



 



the Dr. Is the dealer, Pharmacy company is the supplier,  



 



 


so true.

Heck even when you want to come off opiates the doctors become your dealer of the pills to get you off opiates...and they keep you there all sick and at their mercy.....

The dope game Phone Post

I feel bad for anyone in Kentucky that needs painkillers to function. Because of the problems with pill mills and addiction, the state has created new guidelines that are so strict many doctors have simply stopped writing scripts for painkillers. The people with legitimate needs are being forced to jump through hoops and many without insurance are simply unable to afford the required drug testing along with the cost of office visits and medications. I understand the need to fix the obvious problems but its a shame that many legitimate pain patients are suffering. I am sure TRT is on the road to being demonized as well if it continues to grow in popularity.

I feel bad for anyone in Kentucky that needs painkillers to function. Because of the problems with pill mills and addiction, the state has created new guidelines that are so strict many doctors have simply stopped writing scripts for painkillers. The people with legitimate needs are being forced to jump through hoops and many without insurance are simply unable to afford the required drug testing along with the cost of office visits and medications. I understand the need to fix the obvious problems but its a shame that many legitimate pain patients are suffering. I am sure TRT is on the road to being demonized as well if it continues to grow in popularity.