Trump's Trojan Horse? Lackey Hired Into Justice

Trump's Trojan Horse? Lackey Hired Into Justice
 
Trump Ordered DOJ to Hire Controversial Former Aide, Sources Say
By Chris Strohm  and Jennifer Jacobs
April 11, 2018 at 11:52:59 AM CDT Updated on April 11, 2018 at 4:40:58 PM CDT
 
President Donald Trump personally ordered the Department of Justice to hire a former White House official who departed after he was caught up in a controversy over the release of intelligence material to a member of Congress, according to people familiar with the matter.
 
Ezra Cohen-Watnick, who was forced out of the National Security Council last year, will advise Attorney General Jeff Sessions on national security matters. He left the White House in August for a job at Oracle Corp. following reports that he had shown House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes classified documents.
 
The material allegedly revealed that members of the Obama administration had sought the identities of Trump campaign officials and associates inadvertently caught on government intercepts, in a process known as “unmasking.” Nunes then disclosed that information publicly in an attempt to bolster Trump’s unsubstantiated allegation that President Barack Obama had wiretapped him.
 
Cohen-Watnick’s attorney, Mark Zaid, said that reports of his involvement in the Nunes incident were erroneous. While Cohen-Watnick was working on unmasking issues at the NSC, Zaid said in an interview, “he never showed the documents to Nunes. He never met with Nunes. He had nothing to do with Nunes.”
 
Zaid said that Cohen-Watnick was not fired from the White House. “There was a decision that he was going to leave the NSC to go to another federal position and he resigned on his own accord to go to Oracle,” Zaid said.
 
Bloomberg previously reported that former National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster had Cohen-Watnick removed from the White House agency. A White House official confirmed Wednesday he was forced out.
 
Zaid said that Sessions offered Cohen-Watnick a job in September. Cohen-Watnick neither accepted nor declined the position, Zaid said. “He was continuing to enjoy his time at Oracle,” he said.
 
Trump had thought Cohen-Watnick began working at the Justice Department in the fall, but a confidant told the president during a recent phone call that he was not, according to a person briefed on the call. Trump was displeased, and told staff to make it clear he wanted Cohen-Watnick on the job as soon as possible.
 
Cohen-Watnick was recently asked again to join the Justice Department and accepted, Zaid said. He starts his new government job on Monday.
 
As a matter of policy, the White House generally doesn’t approve the rehiring of staff who are dismissed, aides said. But after it became clear the president wanted Cohen-Watnick on Sessions’ staff, the move was approved.
 
His rehiring drew criticism from Democrats, who speculated Cohen-Watnick may attempt to interfere in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.
 
“Given Mr. Cohen-Watnick’s reported role in helping Congressman Nunes turn the House Intelligence Committee investigation into a partisan breeding ground for conspiracy theories, his new position with the Attorney General at such a sensitive time is deeply troubling,” Matt House, a spokesman for Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer of New York, said in a statement. “Mr. Cohen-Watnick must not come anywhere near the Mueller investigation, and Democrats will watch like a hawk to ensure that’s the case.”
 
Zaid called House’s statement “highly irresponsible” and said “as a DOJ employee, Mr. Cohen-Watnick will abide by all laws and ethical obligations that bind him.”
 
Cohen-Watnick also previously worked with Trump’s first national security adviser, Michael Flynn, who resigned after he misled administration officials, including Vice President Mike Pence, about his contacts with the Russian ambassador to the U.S.
 
Cohen-Watnick’s new role at the Justice Department was first reported by Talking Points Memo.
 
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-11/sessions-is-said-to-hire-controversial-former-white-house-aide

Hammerstein - Dude hasn't even started and he's already talking through his lawyer.


This is actually very interesting...



So now Trump has an inside guy at Justice who can feed him and Nunes everything that is going on.



Interestingly, Nune's just got Rosenstein and Wray to give him the document that led to the Trump Russia investigation by threatening to impeach them...



Now he is likely to use those docs to provide justification to fire Rosenstein and to claim the investigation is biased.



What a political shitshow.

The shit show is rosenstein, mueller, and Comey . And then the sessions guy who seems to like to roll over lets everyone else run the DOJ.

emu67 -

The shit show is rosenstein, mueller, and Comey . And then the sessions guy who seems to like to roll over lets everyone else run the DOJ.

Truth. 

Is someone accusing the head of the Executive Branch of gov't of running the Executive Branch? How DARE he! 

 

"As a matter of policy, the White House generally doesn’t approve the rehiring of staff who are dismissed, aides said."

 

Well, which is it, is it "policy" or is it "generally"? Anyone have a copy of this "policy"? This is completely in addition to the fact that the head of the executive branch can make (or change) any White House "policy" he sees fit. In fact, that's kind of his job.

^^^^^ The President is the head of the Executive branch.

That said - there has always been a unique separation between the White House and the Justice Department (for obvious reasons) that isn't the case with any other part of the executive branch.

You don't want the White House influencing decisions to investigate or prosecute other Americans.  You also don't want the White House influencing investigations into its actions.

This is an essential part of a healthy democracy - it is vitally important to have a Justice Department (including the FBI) with complete independence.

lionsoul - 


^^^^^ The President is the head of the Executive branch.



That said - there has always been a unique separation between the White House and the Justice Department (for obvious reasons) that isn't the case with any other part of the executive branch.



You don't want the White House influencing decisions to investigate or prosecute other Americans.  You also don't want the White House influencing investigations into its actions.



This is an essential part of a healthy democracy - it is vitally important to have a Justice Department (including the FBI) with complete independence.


I assume most people learn that in an elementary civics class? I guess I was mistaken.

lionsoul -


^^^^^ The President is the head of the Executive branch.



That said - there has always been a unique separation between the White House and the Justice Department (for obvious reasons) that isn't the case with any other part of the executive branch.



You don't want the White House influencing decisions to investigate or prosecute other Americans.  You also don't want the White House influencing investigations into its actions.



This is an essential part of a healthy democracy - it is vitally important to have a Justice Department (including the FBI) with complete independence.

Yes, that would be terrible if the White House ever did anything like that, what if they did something like declare a "War on Drugs" or a "War on on Terror"? You're just making shit up at this point, decisions about what kinds of prosecutions to emphasize (Reagan) or de-emphasize (Obama) have always been part of the Presidents job. Presidential decisions about who to prosecute have been done from simply seeing a guy on the cover of a magazine...Carter saw heroin dealer Nicky Barnes on the cover of the New York Time magazine and told Justice to take care of it.

 

"This is an essential part of a healthy democracy - it is vitally important to have a Justice Department (including the FBI) with complete independence."

 

It's kind of the opposite, it's vitally important to a democracy to have it's law enforcement responsive to it's democratcly elected leaders. When your secret police supersede your democracy, you end up with a banana republic. 

GladiatorGannon -
lionsoul -


^^^^^ The President is the head of the Executive branch.



That said - there has always been a unique separation between the White House and the Justice Department (for obvious reasons) that isn't the case with any other part of the executive branch.



You don't want the White House influencing decisions to investigate or prosecute other Americans.  You also don't want the White House influencing investigations into its actions.



This is an essential part of a healthy democracy - it is vitally important to have a Justice Department (including the FBI) with complete independence.

Yes, that would be terrible if the White House ever did anything like that, what if they did something like declare a "War on Drugs" or a "War on on Terror"? You're just making shit up at this point, decisions about what kinds of prosecutions to emphasize (Reagan) or de-emphasize (Obama) have always been part of the Presidents job. Presidential decisions about who to prosecute have been done from simply seeing a guy on the cover of a magazine...Carter saw heroin dealer Nicky Barnes on the cover of the New York Time magazine and told Justice to take care of it.

 

"This is an essential part of a healthy democracy - it is vitally important to have a Justice Department (including the FBI) with complete independence."

 

It's kind of the opposite, it's vitally important to a democracy to have it's law enforcement responsive to it's democratcly elected leaders. When your secret police supersede your democracy, you end up with a banana republic. 

Bingo. 

Fast Pitch - 
GladiatorGannon -
lionsoul -


^^^^^ The President is the head of the Executive branch.



That said - there has always been a unique separation between the White House and the Justice Department (for obvious reasons) that isn't the case with any other part of the executive branch.



You don't want the White House influencing decisions to investigate or prosecute other Americans.  You also don't want the White House influencing investigations into its actions.



This is an essential part of a healthy democracy - it is vitally important to have a Justice Department (including the FBI) with complete independence.

Yes, that would be terrible if the White House ever did anything like that, what if they did something like declare a "War on Drugs" or a "War on on Terror"? You're just making shit up at this point, decisions about what kinds of prosecutions to emphasize (Reagan) or de-emphasize (Obama) have always been part of the Presidents job. Presidential decisions about who to prosecute have been done from simply seeing a guy on the cover of a magazine...Carter saw heroin dealer Nicky Barnes on the cover of the New York Time magazine and told Justice to take care of it.

 

"This is an essential part of a healthy democracy - it is vitally important to have a Justice Department (including the FBI) with complete independence."

 

It's kind of the opposite, it's vitally important to a democracy to have it's law enforcement responsive to it's democratcly elected leaders. When your secret police supersede your democracy, you end up with a banana republic. 

Bingo. 


It's a Bingo if you subscribe to conspiracy theories. It's the deep state guys and those rascal rouge FBI agents

It would be cool if there's actually a sketch of a trojan horse on a dry erase board in the white house with a bunch of football play like x's and arrows on it. His face is sketched onto the trojan horse like a crudely drawn liger. (half man / half tiger)

lionsoul -
Hammerstein - Dude hasn't even started and he's already talking through his lawyer.


This is actually very interesting...



So now Trump has an inside guy at Justice who can feed him and Nunes everything that is going on.



Interestingly, Nune's just got Rosenstein and Wray to give him the document that led to the Trump Russia investigation by threatening to impeach them...



Now he is likely to use those docs to provide justification to fire Rosenstein and to claim the investigation is biased.



What a political shitshow.

They are likely going to be held in contempt of Congress anyways for stonewalling a subpoena for documents from the Clinton investigation they were served with a year ago

BradGluckman -
lionsoul - 


^^^^^ The President is the head of the Executive branch.



That said - there has always been a unique separation between the White House and the Justice Department (for obvious reasons) that isn't the case with any other part of the executive branch.



You don't want the White House influencing decisions to investigate or prosecute other Americans.  You also don't want the White House influencing investigations into its actions.



This is an essential part of a healthy democracy - it is vitally important to have a Justice Department (including the FBI) with complete independence.


I assume most people learn that in an elementary civics class? I guess I was mistaken.

Yeah, I'm surprised it took Lionsoul so long to figure it out. If you're part of the Executive Branch, and the guy democraticly elected explicitly to be in charge of the Executive Branch of gov't (i.e. The President) then this is an example of a democratic system working properly. If elements of the executive branch are going "off the reservation" it is in fact his JOB to monitor them and reign them in.

GladiatorGannon - 
BradGluckman -
lionsoul - 


^^^^^ The President is the head of the Executive branch.



That said - there has always been a unique separation between the White House and the Justice Department (for obvious reasons) that isn't the case with any other part of the executive branch.



You don't want the White House influencing decisions to investigate or prosecute other Americans.  You also don't want the White House influencing investigations into its actions.



This is an essential part of a healthy democracy - it is vitally important to have a Justice Department (including the FBI) with complete independence.


I assume most people learn that in an elementary civics class? I guess I was mistaken.

Yeah, I'm surprised it took Lionsoul so long to figure it out. If you're part of the Executive Branch, and the guy democraticly elected explicitly to be in charge of the Executive Branch of gov't (i.e. The President) then this is an example of a democratic system working properly. If elements of the executive branch are going "off the reservation" it is in fact his JOB to monitor them and reign them in.


So the FBI could just be doing it's job as well in that scenario

GladiatorGannon - 
BradGluckman -
lionsoul - 


^^^^^ The President is the head of the Executive branch.



That said - there has always been a unique separation between the White House and the Justice Department (for obvious reasons) that isn't the case with any other part of the executive branch.



You don't want the White House influencing decisions to investigate or prosecute other Americans.  You also don't want the White House influencing investigations into its actions.



This is an essential part of a healthy democracy - it is vitally important to have a Justice Department (including the FBI) with complete independence.


I assume most people learn that in an elementary civics class? I guess I was mistaken.

Yeah, I'm surprised it took Lionsoul so long to figure it out. If you're part of the Executive Branch, and the guy democraticly elected explicitly to be in charge of the Executive Branch of gov't (i.e. The President) then this is an example of a democratic system working properly. If elements of the executive branch are going "off the reservation" it is in fact his JOB to monitor them and reign them in.



Dude - I am not sure you truly understand the role of President vs. the role of Justice.



He can influence policy decisions (i.e. war on terror, war on drugs) and the types of cases that Justice emphasizes and focuses on.



He is not supposed to be influencing specific investigations (especially those that are being done investigating his own campaign).



That is ridiculous.

Ill Portents - 

Amazing how many people think the president and his friends should be above the law and unable to be investigated. 

But it's OUR system that is like a banana republic lol


Not at all what he, or anybody who has an issue with handling of the investigation said, you fucking faggot.

You are literally......fuck, nevermind. Not wasting my e-breath.

lionsoul -
GladiatorGannon - 
BradGluckman -
lionsoul - 


^^^^^ The President is the head of the Executive branch.



That said - there has always been a unique separation between the White House and the Justice Department (for obvious reasons) that isn't the case with any other part of the executive branch.



You don't want the White House influencing decisions to investigate or prosecute other Americans.  You also don't want the White House influencing investigations into its actions.



This is an essential part of a healthy democracy - it is vitally important to have a Justice Department (including the FBI) with complete independence.


I assume most people learn that in an elementary civics class? I guess I was mistaken.

Yeah, I'm surprised it took Lionsoul so long to figure it out. If you're part of the Executive Branch, and the guy democraticly elected explicitly to be in charge of the Executive Branch of gov't (i.e. The President) then this is an example of a democratic system working properly. If elements of the executive branch are going "off the reservation" it is in fact his JOB to monitor them and reign them in.



Dude - I am not sure you truly understand the role of President vs. the role of Justice.



He can influence policy decisions (i.e. war on terror, war on drugs) and the types of cases that Justice emphasizes and focuses on.



He is not supposed to be influencing specific investigations (especially those that are being done investigating his own campaign).



That is ridiculous.

I just gave you the example of Carter and Nicky Barnes. Can you show me the part of the Constitution that declares the Justice Department a 4th branch of government, independent of the executive branch? Oh wait, you can't. The Consititution DOES have a provision for reigning in the President, but that was enumerated to the legislative branch, not the executive branch, which must remain responsive to the democraticly elected President if we want to stay a democracy.

 

And if you're complaining about cronyism, they loaded the investigative team with Hillary donors, if the democraticly elected person in charge of Justice decides to even it out to avoid bias, that is in fact within his powers.

 

 

Ill Portents - 
Billco -
Ill Portents - 

Amazing how many people think the president and his friends should be above the law and unable to be investigated. 

But it's OUR system that is like a banana republic lol


Not at all what he, or anybody who has an issue with handling of the investigation said, you fucking faggot.

You are literally......fuck, nevermind. Not wasting my e-breath.

He thinks the president should be able to end any investigation into himself or anyone else (including his friends and family). 

By all means, explain how this is not putting the president and his cronies above the law. 


If, and when the President actually fires the Indepedent Counsel, please let me know.

Having someone within DOJ to balance the obvioulsy liberal dog and pony show it has become, is NOT the president ending any investigation into himself or anyone else.

He may fire Rosenstein, and for good reason. I will bet you your 457th screen name that he won't fire Mueller, no matter what MSM says.

Ill Portents - 
Billco - 
Ill Portents - 
Billco -
Ill Portents - 

Amazing how many people think the president and his friends should be above the law and unable to be investigated. 

But it's OUR system that is like a banana republic lol


Not at all what he, or anybody who has an issue with handling of the investigation said, you fucking faggot.

You are literally......fuck, nevermind. Not wasting my e-breath.

He thinks the president should be able to end any investigation into himself or anyone else (including his friends and family). 

By all means, explain how this is not putting the president and his cronies above the law. 


If, and when the President actually fires the Indepedent Counsel, please let me know.

Having someone within DOJ to balance the obvioulsy liberal dog and pony show it has become, is NOT the president ending any investigation into himself or anyone else.

He may fire Rosenstein, and for good reason. I will bet you your 457th screen name that he won't fire Mueller, no matter what MSM says.

He can't fire Mueller. He can fire Rosenstein and order his replacement to fire Mueller.

lol @ firing Rosenstein "for good reason", i.e., doing his job.


Which is the point of the original post.



He is clearly scheming (along with guys like Nunes) to find a way to justify firing Rosenstein so he can ultimately kill the special prosecutor's investigation.



As for Gannon - he is right that the President is in charge of the Executive Branch... and there appears to be some debate about the limits of his powers.  But that is ultimately the point.  If he goes down a road like this, it would create a constitutional crisis.



The hope, ultimately, is that the legislative branch and the judicial branch would then exercise their respective powers to fulfill their obligations to the constitution and in the best interests of the nation.

lionsoul -
Ill Portents - 
Billco - 
Ill Portents - 
Billco -
Ill Portents - 

Amazing how many people think the president and his friends should be above the law and unable to be investigated. 

But it's OUR system that is like a banana republic lol


Not at all what he, or anybody who has an issue with handling of the investigation said, you fucking faggot.

You are literally......fuck, nevermind. Not wasting my e-breath.

He thinks the president should be able to end any investigation into himself or anyone else (including his friends and family). 

By all means, explain how this is not putting the president and his cronies above the law. 


If, and when the President actually fires the Indepedent Counsel, please let me know.

Having someone within DOJ to balance the obvioulsy liberal dog and pony show it has become, is NOT the president ending any investigation into himself or anyone else.

He may fire Rosenstein, and for good reason. I will bet you your 457th screen name that he won't fire Mueller, no matter what MSM says.

He can't fire Mueller. He can fire Rosenstein and order his replacement to fire Mueller.

lol @ firing Rosenstein "for good reason", i.e., doing his job.


Which is the point of the original post.



He is clearly scheming (along with guys like Nunes) to find a way to justify firing Rosenstein so he can ultimately kill the special prosecutor's investigation.



As for Gannon - he is right that the President is in charge of the Executive Branch... and there appears to be some debate about the limits of his powers.  But that is ultimately the point.  If he goes down a road like this, it would create a constitutional crisis.



The hope, ultimately, is that the legislative branch and the judicial branch would then exercise their respective powers to fulfill their obligations to the constitution and in the best interests of the nation.

Except it's hardly a constitutional crisis when the founders foresaw just these kinds of issues and explicitly enumerated how to handle them...within the framework of the constitution. Anybody advocating otherwise is asking for judicial activism or asking for people to ignore the consititution i.e. break the law.