Trumps's wall will cost $21.6 Billion

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-border-wall-immigration-mexico-mexico-border-554867?amp=1

Also says it'll take over 3 years to build 

Costs a lot but it'll create a lot of jobs. And Mexico will pay us back through the years of course 

Drop in the bucket

Fuck!  How many pesos is that..?

Pumpkin Spice Jesus -

Similar to Trump's campaign tax plan.

The fact: it will without question benefit the highest earners the most.

The selling point: that will help lead to an overall net economic gain for all citizens -- assuming that it doesn't land in the pockets of the people already benefiting from that guaranteed redistribution of wealth. 

In this case...

The fact: it will cost X amount to build and will be paid for via taxes on U.S. citizens. 

The selling point: We will make it up via trade measures at some point, and maybe that will somehow benefit the tax payers.

Disagree here, biggest selling point, stop illegal immigration.

Trifive -

And how much do we give the rest of the world?

 

60 billion dollar trade deficit with Mexico.  So now the deficit is 39 billion.    

you cant be this dumb in real life.

the key word in TRADE deficit is TRADE.  A TRADE deficit is the difference between how much we export to them versus how much we import from them.  It has nothing to do with giving handouts and shit.

Damn, those Mexicans are going to be broke.

Worth every peso.

UGCTT_mojodmonky -
Trifive -

And how much do we give the rest of the world?

 

60 billion dollar trade deficit with Mexico.  So now the deficit is 39 billion.    

you cant be this dumb in real life.

the key word in TRADE deficit is TRADE.  A TRADE deficit is the difference between how much we export to them versus how much we import from them.  It has nothing to do with giving handouts and shit.

That's just like your opinion, man.

Pumpkin Spice Jesus -
jpm995 -
Pumpkin Spice Jesus -

Similar to Trump's campaign tax plan.

The fact: it will without question benefit the highest earners the most.

The selling point: that will help lead to an overall net economic gain for all citizens -- assuming that it doesn't land in the pockets of the people already benefiting from that guaranteed redistribution of wealth. 

In this case...

The fact: it will cost X amount to build and will be paid for via taxes on U.S. citizens. 

The selling point: We will make it up via trade measures at some point, and maybe that will somehow benefit the tax payers.

Disagree here, biggest selling point, stop illegal immigration.

That's a fair point, but I'm focused just on the cost factor here -- not that we haven't taken shits at the fed level that cost more than $21 billion.

Exactly. So, why are you concerned?

I see the wall as a last option, so why make the last option the first choice?!?!?!

complete waste of tax payers dollars.

Mexico isn't paying for shit.

The wall is completely useless and will not deter illegals from entering at all. They will just fly or take a boat.

Can't believe there are people who actually think the wall is a good idea.

Vegito Blue - 

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-border-wall-immigration-mexico-mexico-border-554867?amp=1

Also says it'll take over 3 years to build 


He's got at least 4, and probably 8 given the disorganized level of his opposition right now.

jpm995 -
Pumpkin Spice Jesus -

Similar to Trump's campaign tax plan.

The fact: it will without question benefit the highest earners the most.

The selling point: that will help lead to an overall net economic gain for all citizens -- assuming that it doesn't land in the pockets of the people already benefiting from that guaranteed redistribution of wealth. 

In this case...

The fact: it will cost X amount to build and will be paid for via taxes on U.S. citizens. 

The selling point: We will make it up via trade measures at some point, and maybe that will somehow benefit the tax payers.

Disagree here, biggest selling point, stop illegal immigration.

Well, right off the bat you should remember sneak-over-the-border illegal immigration is roughly half of all immigration, the rest of it is over-stayers. 

And of the half that is sneak-over-the-border illegal immigration, only a fraction of it is by walking over. A fraction that will undoudtedbly grow smaller as runners adjust to the new wall. I'm certain it will help, but only marginally I would think

MMA Playwright - 

Pic of Sanguine Cynics ballsy trip through the Amazon. In honor of his commitment to going native to research his book, we're going to not let him back in. It will at least get him a sequel, or possibly an 88 Lumber commercial.

Ask for 10,000 Mexican volunteers to help build the wall.

After the wall is built the Mexican volunteers can become US citizens after back ground checks/ citizenship classes, etc....

jpm995 - 
Pumpkin Spice Jesus -

Similar to Trump's campaign tax plan.

The fact: it will without question benefit the highest earners the most.

The selling point: that will help lead to an overall net economic gain for all citizens -- assuming that it doesn't land in the pockets of the people already benefiting from that guaranteed redistribution of wealth. 

In this case...

The fact: it will cost X amount to build and will be paid for via taxes on U.S. citizens. 

The selling point: We will make it up via trade measures at some point, and maybe that will somehow benefit the tax payers.

Disagree here, biggest selling point, stop illegal immigration.


MattyECB -
jpm995 -
Pumpkin Spice Jesus -

Similar to Trump's campaign tax plan.

The fact: it will without question benefit the highest earners the most.

The selling point: that will help lead to an overall net economic gain for all citizens -- assuming that it doesn't land in the pockets of the people already benefiting from that guaranteed redistribution of wealth. 

In this case...

The fact: it will cost X amount to build and will be paid for via taxes on U.S. citizens. 

The selling point: We will make it up via trade measures at some point, and maybe that will somehow benefit the tax payers.

Disagree here, biggest selling point, stop illegal immigration.

Well, right off the bat you should remember sneak-over-the-border illegal immigration is roughly half of all immigration, the rest of it is over-stayers. 

And of the half that is sneak-over-the-border illegal immigration, only a fraction of it is by walking over. A fraction that will undoudtedbly grow smaller as runners adjust to the new wall. I'm certain it will help, but only marginally I would think

I've seen stats that approx 1000 a week cross the border illegally. If it stops 50-75% it's a good start. He's already enforcing sending back those with criminal records. Our armed forces have the ability to spot a snake crossing the border. We can stop illegal immigration not sure if we have the will power to do it.

Rahjai MD - complete waste of tax payers dollars.

Mexico isn't paying for shit.

The wall is completely useless and will not deter illegals from entering at all. They will just fly or take a boat.

Can't believe there are people who actually think the wall is a good idea.
Where exactly do you think illegals are flying into the country? And the opportunities for water crossings are fairly limited. Build the wall, redirect the massive amount of manpower CBP uses to patrol the Mexican border to ports and coastal locations.