I enjoyed the card but that didn't translate to buys, this seems like a slumping stage for zuffa.
It's not a drop in talent but there is a massive drop is star power, calling jones and Ronda massive stars doesn't make them huge sellers..
Can't wait to hear Dana's spin 
I don't know why anybody is putting this on Jones. The product is oversaturated, and business is down across the board. Cain/JDS III was an awesome card, and it did the exact same number of buys.
bleedblue1 - Bellator will probably beat thatLol
I Wild Each It -As opposed to all the free boxing?dubate - Well now that both GSP and Silva are gone, the divisions are actually exciting again. Hopefully since we don't have champions that haven't made their millions yet, they will actually defend the belt more than once a year.
Hopefully the UFC is moving towards the logical
Fight Pass - Big name main event then a mix of up & comers plus a couple of wrestlers and a local fighter or two thrown in.
FS1 - 1 championship contender match and 2 well known main event fighters coming off losses.
FOX - This is where they still have problems. They need to stop headlining these events with fighters under 155lbs not named Barao. These should all be headlined by either Barao or Pettis and every other fight should either be LHW/HW slugfest or to set up a #1 contender.
PPV - Either the HW, LHW, FW, or Honda fighting in the main event. Mighty Mouse can be the co main. Every other fight should be a "name fighter".
I know you love you some Zuffa, but read what you just wrote again. Look at how many platforms their content is spread over, and damn near every one of them is pay-to-watch. Therein lies just one of the reasons people are losing interest. People don't know where to find the content, and they're tired of getting nickel dimed to watch it. But hey, the Egg of Greed and his minions know what they're doing, right?
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Time to raise PPV prices another $5.
DoomFarmer - Are we acting like they don't promote Jones or something?Did you watch it? Awesome night of fights
It was just a bad card.
dubate -I Wild Each It -As opposed to all the free boxing?dubate - Well now that both GSP and Silva are gone, the divisions are actually exciting again. Hopefully since we don't have champions that haven't made their millions yet, they will actually defend the belt more than once a year.
Hopefully the UFC is moving towards the logical
Fight Pass - Big name main event then a mix of up & comers plus a couple of wrestlers and a local fighter or two thrown in.
FS1 - 1 championship contender match and 2 well known main event fighters coming off losses.
FOX - This is where they still have problems. They need to stop headlining these events with fighters under 155lbs not named Barao. These should all be headlined by either Barao or Pettis and every other fight should either be LHW/HW slugfest or to set up a #1 contender.
PPV - Either the HW, LHW, FW, or Honda fighting in the main event. Mighty Mouse can be the co main. Every other fight should be a "name fighter".
I know you love you some Zuffa, but read what you just wrote again. Look at how many platforms their content is spread over, and damn near every one of them is pay-to-watch. Therein lies just one of the reasons people are losing interest. People don't know where to find the content, and they're tired of getting nickel dimed to watch it. But hey, the Egg of Greed and his minions know what they're doing, right?
ESPN2's Friday Night Fights has aired uninterrupted since 1998. Anyone with basic cable can watch championship-quality boxing every week of the year without hunting for it. Prior to that, USA Network ran Tuesday Night Fights for 16 consecutive years, also on every basic cable package. My grandfather and I watched old Buddy McGirt, young Felix Trinidad, old Pernell Whitaker, the then-ignored IBF champion Bernard Hopkins, all for free.
Boxing fans don't need to purchase PPVs to stay tuned into the sport.
MMA fans need to purchase PPVs, add a package that includes FS2, and purchase Fight Pass in order to be a fan.
You want ticket sales? Diaz vs. Silva.
BackOffWarchild -So what you're saying is that the only true free option to watch MMA or boxing is by using an antenna to get the UFC on FOX, everything else is just a question of how much you are willing to pay. Spike, ESPN, and FS1 are all on basic cable packages.dubate -I Wild Each It -As opposed to all the free boxing?dubate - Well now that both GSP and Silva are gone, the divisions are actually exciting again. Hopefully since we don't have champions that haven't made their millions yet, they will actually defend the belt more than once a year.
Hopefully the UFC is moving towards the logical
Fight Pass - Big name main event then a mix of up & comers plus a couple of wrestlers and a local fighter or two thrown in.
FS1 - 1 championship contender match and 2 well known main event fighters coming off losses.
FOX - This is where they still have problems. They need to stop headlining these events with fighters under 155lbs not named Barao. These should all be headlined by either Barao or Pettis and every other fight should either be LHW/HW slugfest or to set up a #1 contender.
PPV - Either the HW, LHW, FW, or Honda fighting in the main event. Mighty Mouse can be the co main. Every other fight should be a "name fighter".
I know you love you some Zuffa, but read what you just wrote again. Look at how many platforms their content is spread over, and damn near every one of them is pay-to-watch. Therein lies just one of the reasons people are losing interest. People don't know where to find the content, and they're tired of getting nickel dimed to watch it. But hey, the Egg of Greed and his minions know what they're doing, right?
ESPN2's Friday Night Fights has aired uninterrupted since 1998. Anyone with basic cable can watch championship-quality boxing every week of the year without hunting for it. Prior to that, USA Network ran Tuesday Night Fights for 16 consecutive years, also on every basic cable package. My grandfather and I watched old Buddy McGirt, young Felix Trinidad, old Pernell Whitaker, the then-ignored IBF champion Bernard Hopkins, all for free.
Boxing fans don't need to purchase PPVs to stay tuned into the sport.
MMA fans need to purchase PPVs, add a package that includes FS2, and purchase Fight Pass in order to be a fan.
dubate -BackOffWarchild -dubate -I Wild Each It -dubate - Well now that both GSP and Silva are gone, the divisions are actually exciting again. Hopefully since we don't have champions that haven't made their millions yet, they will actually defend the belt more than once a year.
Hopefully the UFC is moving towards the logical
Fight Pass - Big name main event then a mix of up & comers plus a couple of wrestlers and a local fighter or two thrown in.
FS1 - 1 championship contender match and 2 well known main event fighters coming off losses.
FOX - This is where they still have problems. They need to stop headlining these events with fighters under 155lbs not named Barao. These should all be headlined by either Barao or Pettis and every other fight should either be LHW/HW slugfest or to set up a #1 contender.
PPV - Either the HW, LHW, FW, or Honda fighting in the main event. Mighty Mouse can be the co main. Every other fight should be a "name fighter".<br /> <span class="User-323686" id="userPost49367988"><span class="User-323686" id="userPost49367324">I know you love you some Zuffa, but read what you just wrote again. Look at how many platforms their content is spread over, and damn near every one of them is pay-to-watch. Therein lies just one of the reasons people are losing interest. People don't know where to find the content, and they're tired of getting nickel dimed to watch it. But hey, the Egg of Greed and his minions know what they're doing, right?</span></span></blockquote> <span class="User-323686" id="userPost49367988"><span class="User-323686" id="userPost49367324">As opposed to all the free boxing? <img alt="Phone Post 3.0" border="0" src="/images/phone/droid.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></span></span></blockquote> <br /> <p> <span class="User-323686" id="userPost49367988">ESPN2's Friday Night Fights has aired uninterrupted since 1998. Anyone with basic cable can watch championship-quality boxing every week of the year without hunting for it. Prior to that, USA Network ran Tuesday Night Fights for 16 consecutive years, also on every basic cable package. My grandfather and I watched old Buddy McGirt, young Felix Trinidad, old Pernell Whitaker, the then-ignored IBF champion Bernard Hopkins, all for free.</span></p> <p> <span class="User-323686" id="userPost49367988">Boxing fans don't need to purchase PPVs to stay tuned into the sport.</span></p> <p> <span class="User-323686" id="userPost49367988">MMA fans need to purchase PPVs, add a package that includes FS2, and purchase Fight Pass in order to be a fan. </span></p> </blockquote> <span class="User-323686" id="userPost49367988">So what you're saying is that the only true free option to watch MMA or boxing is by using an antenna to get the UFC on FOX, everything else is just a question of how much you are willing to pay. Spike, ESPN, and FS1 are all on basic cable packages. <img alt="Phone Post 3.0" border="0" src="/images/phone/droid.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></span></blockquote>
I'm saying the single-best resource for watching boxing and getting boxing news on television has been broadcast on the same network in the same time slot for 16 years. Your point is foolish: 83% of American households have cable television, the "Only the UFC is free" applies to the smallest fraction of television viewers. ESPN2 is in every home that has cable television service, and the program is a bedrock of the channel. Not channel-hopping, not part of a premium package, not requiring a subscription to a poorly-run streaming service. I'm not knocking the amount of quality MMA available. But don't act like boxing fans are in the lurch and it makes what's happening with the UFC okay.
Knockoutimus - Jones isn't a likable starHe is who we thought he was
Phisher -UFC 168 did over a million and that was just a little over five months ago. It's still very possible to do decent numbers. People can't pretend like star power doesn't factor in. If Andy or GSP had a PPV tomorrow, theyd easily out sell 172.
I don't know why anybody is putting this on Jones. The product is oversaturated, and business is down across the board. Cain/JDS III was an awesome card, and it did the exact same number of buys.
Jones has always landed in this range for some reason, despite being one of the most dominant and exciting fighters out there right now. He just hasn't picked up a fan base. Cain is having the same issue.
needed a diaz on the card.. oh wait. clown shoes
Phisher -Indeed. Oversaturation and fatigue. So much for free and so little of the pay cards are must-sees any more.
I don't know why anybody is putting this on Jones. The product is oversaturated, and business is down across the board. Cain/JDS III was an awesome card, and it did the exact same number of buys.
Wisdom100 -
I don't believe in this PPV numbers... i hope dana comes out and confirms the true numbers
Mark my words, there is no way that card did only 350k
Zuffa doesn't release the real numbers. This is the best that you're going to get.
Phisher -Wisdom100 -
I don't believe in this PPV numbers... i hope dana comes out and confirms the true numbers
Mark my words, there is no way that card did only 350k
Zuffa doesn't release the real numbers. This is the best that you're going to get.
so basically they are shrimping on the numbers to avoid paying the fighters and whatnot or.. the card really did that crappy.
The bubble has burst.
madmav -Phisher -Wisdom100 -
I don't believe in this PPV numbers... i hope dana comes out and confirms the true numbers
Mark my words, there is no way that card did only 350k
Zuffa doesn't release the real numbers. This is the best that you're going to get.
so basically they are shrimping on the numbers to avoid paying the fighters and whatnot or.. the card really did that crappy.
the fighters with ppv money on their contracts can audit the numbers if they want to, but ZUFA has never released anynumber publicly.
At most they have told the media if an event has reached the million buys. But that has happened like 2 times in MMA history
dubate -Fs1 is not basic cableBackOffWarchild -So what you're saying is that the only true free option to watch MMA or boxing is by using an antenna to get the UFC on FOX, everything else is just a question of how much you are willing to pay. Spike, ESPN, and FS1 are all on basic cable packages.dubate -I Wild Each It -As opposed to all the free boxing?dubate - Well now that both GSP and Silva are gone, the divisions are actually exciting again. Hopefully since we don't have champions that haven't made their millions yet, they will actually defend the belt more than once a year.
Hopefully the UFC is moving towards the logical
Fight Pass - Big name main event then a mix of up & comers plus a couple of wrestlers and a local fighter or two thrown in.
FS1 - 1 championship contender match and 2 well known main event fighters coming off losses.
FOX - This is where they still have problems. They need to stop headlining these events with fighters under 155lbs not named Barao. These should all be headlined by either Barao or Pettis and every other fight should either be LHW/HW slugfest or to set up a #1 contender.
PPV - Either the HW, LHW, FW, or Honda fighting in the main event. Mighty Mouse can be the co main. Every other fight should be a "name fighter".
I know you love you some Zuffa, but read what you just wrote again. Look at how many platforms their content is spread over, and damn near every one of them is pay-to-watch. Therein lies just one of the reasons people are losing interest. People don't know where to find the content, and they're tired of getting nickel dimed to watch it. But hey, the Egg of Greed and his minions know what they're doing, right?
ESPN2's Friday Night Fights has aired uninterrupted since 1998. Anyone with basic cable can watch championship-quality boxing every week of the year without hunting for it. Prior to that, USA Network ran Tuesday Night Fights for 16 consecutive years, also on every basic cable package. My grandfather and I watched old Buddy McGirt, young Felix Trinidad, old Pernell Whitaker, the then-ignored IBF champion Bernard Hopkins, all for free.
Boxing fans don't need to purchase PPVs to stay tuned into the sport.
MMA fans need to purchase PPVs, add a package that includes FS2, and purchase Fight Pass in order to be a fan.