SN moved to conspiracy ground -Nobody forced the fighters to pursue a career of head trauma so i have a hard time casting them as victims.whoabro - Doest seem too bad to me. By comparison, Deftones make about 35k a show (split 5 ways).Deftones don't play 3 times a year and get punched in the head for living.
Who put the Diaz brothers in charge of setting the budget for fighter purse payouts?
whoabro -SN moved to conspiracy ground -Nobody forced the fighters to pursue a career of head trauma so i have a hard time casting them as victims.whoabro - Doest seem too bad to me. By comparison, Deftones make about 35k a show (split 5 ways).Deftones don't play 3 times a year and get punched in the head for living.
They got into a sport that was exploding in popularity with the assumption that some of those profits would be passed on to the people who are actually providing the product. Silly them.
whoabro - Doest seem too bad to me. By comparison, Deftones make about 35k a show (split 5 ways).Ok those guys do like 100 shows a year. Not a good analogy.
Decimated -I wild each it, lol that meets their naked?Captfireeyes -Are you number for Joe Rogan interview that Dana White that's more in Las Vegas casinos and what he pays these busters. Fucken unfair man. Pay them more!Jimmy Wrassler -20k to show for a title fight is a joke. Dana tips his waitress more than that...time traveling 12er - Someone in another thread said that Soto's contract was changed before the fight and he was given Barao's show money.
They said his contract was changed, was originally something smaller and upped to 20/20 for the title fight
This is one of the worst cards of the year, I have never heard of any of these people, I wont be buying this show and the UFC will do about 50k buys. - The UG
Fighter pay for 177 is announced
How the hell are these guys getting paid so little money? They deserve to all be millionaires. - The UG
UGCTT_CloudStrife -
This is one of the worst cards of the year, I have never heard of any of these people, I wont be buying this show and the UFC will do about 50k buys. - The UG
Fighter pay for 177 is announced
How the hell are these guys getting paid so little money? They deserve to all be millionaires. - The UG
Don't you think their take home should be more than the gate when you consider its $65 for a pvp.
Even 50k pvp buys is 1.6mil for Zuffa, combined with a 700k gate, that is 2.3mil take from just those 2 revenue streams. There are considerably more than just those 2, but I have no idea what they add up to.
The fighters, the people the fans paid to watch made a reported 550k roughly. Somehow, I don't see it costing the UFC 1.7mil to put on that show. They made a lot of money of these guys.
Zeph -UGCTT_CloudStrife -
This is one of the worst cards of the year, I have never heard of any of these people, I wont be buying this show and the UFC will do about 50k buys. - The UG
Fighter pay for 177 is announced
How the hell are these guys getting paid so little money? They deserve to all be millionaires. - The UG
Don't you think their take home should be more than the gate when you consider its $65 for a pvp.
Even 50k pvp buys is 1.6mil for Zuffa, combined with a 700k gate, that is 2.3mil take from just those 2 revenue streams. There are considerably more than just those 2, but I have no idea what they add up to.
The fighters, the people the fans paid to watch made a reported 550k roughly. Somehow, I don't see it costing the UFC 1.7mil to put on that show. They made a lot of money of these guys.
Don't forget the 200k in perfomance bonuses. Add in the accomidations and flights for fighters and their coach. All of the advertising on billboards and commercials, the cost of all of the workers backstage. The cost to rent an arena. The cost of the annoucers. And just general overhead for the company.
But forget all about that. My main point was people on here just find reasons to complain about everything. They spent the whole week shitting on this card and the people on it and then when they see the fighter pay they get all up in arms that people they have never heard of and said they wouldn't pay to watch aren't making NFL type money.
Zeph -UGCTT_CloudStrife -
This is one of the worst cards of the year, I have never heard of any of these people, I wont be buying this show and the UFC will do about 50k buys. - The UG
Fighter pay for 177 is announced
How the hell are these guys getting paid so little money? They deserve to all be millionaires. - The UG
Don't you think their take home should be more than the gate when you consider its $65 for a pvp.
Even 50k pvp buys is 1.6mil for Zuffa, combined with a 700k gate, that is 2.3mil take from just those 2 revenue streams. There are considerably more than just those 2, but I have no idea what they add up to.
The fighters, the people the fans paid to watch made a reported 550k roughly. Somehow, I don't see it costing the UFC 1.7mil to put on that show. They made a lot of money of these guys.
Don't forget all of the UFC's sponsors, as well.
And honestly people get paid what they are worth. If they could get paid better by someone else they should go get it. Most of the people on this card were unranked fighters that nobody heard of. People that bought the card didn't buy it for them. they bought it for the intials UFC. Whether we agree or not that it is fair the fact is that is the truth.
UGCTT_CloudStrife -Zeph -UGCTT_CloudStrife -
This is one of the worst cards of the year, I have never heard of any of these people, I wont be buying this show and the UFC will do about 50k buys. - The UG
Fighter pay for 177 is announced
How the hell are these guys getting paid so little money? They deserve to all be millionaires. - The UG
Don't you think their take home should be more than the gate when you consider its $65 for a pvp.
Even 50k pvp buys is 1.6mil for Zuffa, combined with a 700k gate, that is 2.3mil take from just those 2 revenue streams. There are considerably more than just those 2, but I have no idea what they add up to.
The fighters, the people the fans paid to watch made a reported 550k roughly. Somehow, I don't see it costing the UFC 1.7mil to put on that show. They made a lot of money of these guys.
Don't forget the 200k in perfomance bonuses. Add in the accomidations and flights for fighters and their coach. All of the advertising on billboards and commercials, the cost of all of the workers backstage. The cost to rent an arena. The cost of the annoucers. And just general overhead for the company.
But forget all about that. My main point was people on here just find reasons to complain about everything. They spent the whole week shitting on this card and the people on it and then when they see the fighter pay they get all up in arms that people they have never heard of and said they wouldn't pay to watch aren't making NFL type money.
550k was with the 200k in performance bonuses. If it costs them 1.7mil to put on that event they are doing something wrong.
UGCTT_CloudStrife -
And honestly people get paid what they are worth. If they could get paid better by someone else they should go get it. Most of the people on this card were unranked fighters that nobody heard of. People that bought the card didn't buy it for them. they bought it for the intials UFC. Whether we agree or not that it is fair the fact is that is the truth.
Well clearly they are worth a fair amount, but aren't seeing those profits. This is very similar to why the Ali act was instituted, but I guess you believe that was a bad thing and good old Don King should have had a bigger share of the pie, because if the fighters didn't like it they could go fight somewhere else.
Zeph -UGCTT_CloudStrife -Zeph -UGCTT_CloudStrife -
This is one of the worst cards of the year, I have never heard of any of these people, I wont be buying this show and the UFC will do about 50k buys. - The UG
Fighter pay for 177 is announced
How the hell are these guys getting paid so little money? They deserve to all be millionaires. - The UG
Don't you think their take home should be more than the gate when you consider its $65 for a pvp.
Even 50k pvp buys is 1.6mil for Zuffa, combined with a 700k gate, that is 2.3mil take from just those 2 revenue streams. There are considerably more than just those 2, but I have no idea what they add up to.
The fighters, the people the fans paid to watch made a reported 550k roughly. Somehow, I don't see it costing the UFC 1.7mil to put on that show. They made a lot of money of these guys.
Don't forget the 200k in perfomance bonuses. Add in the accomidations and flights for fighters and their coach. All of the advertising on billboards and commercials, the cost of all of the workers backstage. The cost to rent an arena. The cost of the annoucers. And just general overhead for the company.
But forget all about that. My main point was people on here just find reasons to complain about everything. They spent the whole week shitting on this card and the people on it and then when they see the fighter pay they get all up in arms that people they have never heard of and said they wouldn't pay to watch aren't making NFL type money.
550k was with the 200k in performance bonuses. If it costs them 1.7mil to put on that event they are doing something wrong.
no it isn't, the pay was 420k before the bonuses so it comes out to 620k. Also don't forget that 4 fighters were pulled off the card last minute. All but Barao got their pay for that as well.
But in all seriousness I'm not getting into a pay argument for something that has no bearing on me at all. My post was that I found it funny that this place just finds reasons to bitch about anything. They complain that they never heard of these guys then complain that they aren't making millions. That's all I wanted to say
UGCTT_CloudStrife -Zeph -UGCTT_CloudStrife -Zeph -UGCTT_CloudStrife -
This is one of the worst cards of the year, I have never heard of any of these people, I wont be buying this show and the UFC will do about 50k buys. - The UG
Fighter pay for 177 is announced
How the hell are these guys getting paid so little money? They deserve to all be millionaires. - The UG
Don't you think their take home should be more than the gate when you consider its $65 for a pvp.
Even 50k pvp buys is 1.6mil for Zuffa, combined with a 700k gate, that is 2.3mil take from just those 2 revenue streams. There are considerably more than just those 2, but I have no idea what they add up to.
The fighters, the people the fans paid to watch made a reported 550k roughly. Somehow, I don't see it costing the UFC 1.7mil to put on that show. They made a lot of money of these guys.
Don't forget the 200k in perfomance bonuses. Add in the accomidations and flights for fighters and their coach. All of the advertising on billboards and commercials, the cost of all of the workers backstage. The cost to rent an arena. The cost of the annoucers. And just general overhead for the company.
But forget all about that. My main point was people on here just find reasons to complain about everything. They spent the whole week shitting on this card and the people on it and then when they see the fighter pay they get all up in arms that people they have never heard of and said they wouldn't pay to watch aren't making NFL type money.
550k was with the 200k in performance bonuses. If it costs them 1.7mil to put on that event they are doing something wrong.
no it isn't, the pay was 420k before the bonuses so it comes out to 620k. Also don't forget that 4 fighters were pulled off the card last minute. All but Barao got their pay for that as well.
Ok, I'm sorry that 70k completely invalidates my point. You have shown me the error of my ways. Thank you.
UGCTT_CloudStrife -
And honestly people get paid what they are worth. If they could get paid better by someone else they should go get it. Most of the people on this card were unranked fighters that nobody heard of. People that bought the card didn't buy it for them. they bought it for the intials UFC. Whether we agree or not that it is fair the fact is that is the truth.
People watch NFL for the initials NFL, but the minimum yearly salary for the lowest of the low first year players is $420,000, and the lowest caliber football players play a far less important roll for the success of the NFL than the lowest paid fighters.
Zeph -UGCTT_CloudStrife -Zeph -UGCTT_CloudStrife -Zeph -UGCTT_CloudStrife -
This is one of the worst cards of the year, I have never heard of any of these people, I wont be buying this show and the UFC will do about 50k buys. - The UG
Fighter pay for 177 is announced
How the hell are these guys getting paid so little money? They deserve to all be millionaires. - The UG
Don't you think their take home should be more than the gate when you consider its $65 for a pvp.
Even 50k pvp buys is 1.6mil for Zuffa, combined with a 700k gate, that is 2.3mil take from just those 2 revenue streams. There are considerably more than just those 2, but I have no idea what they add up to.
The fighters, the people the fans paid to watch made a reported 550k roughly. Somehow, I don't see it costing the UFC 1.7mil to put on that show. They made a lot of money of these guys.
Don't forget the 200k in perfomance bonuses. Add in the accomidations and flights for fighters and their coach. All of the advertising on billboards and commercials, the cost of all of the workers backstage. The cost to rent an arena. The cost of the annoucers. And just general overhead for the company.
But forget all about that. My main point was people on here just find reasons to complain about everything. They spent the whole week shitting on this card and the people on it and then when they see the fighter pay they get all up in arms that people they have never heard of and said they wouldn't pay to watch aren't making NFL type money.
550k was with the 200k in performance bonuses. If it costs them 1.7mil to put on that event they are doing something wrong.
no it isn't, the pay was 420k before the bonuses so it comes out to 620k. Also don't forget that 4 fighters were pulled off the card last minute. All but Barao got their pay for that as well.
Ok, I'm sorry that 70k completely invalidates my point. You have shown me the error of my ways. Thank you.
You're welcome
UGCTT_CloudStrife -If the event sells 50k vs 500k, do those fighter salaries increase? Or do we just assume the UFC gives them a nice locker room bonus?Zeph -UGCTT_CloudStrife -Zeph -UGCTT_CloudStrife -
This is one of the worst cards of the year, I have never heard of any of these people, I wont be buying this show and the UFC will do about 50k buys. - The UG
Fighter pay for 177 is announced
How the hell are these guys getting paid so little money? They deserve to all be millionaires. - The UG
Don't you think their take home should be more than the gate when you consider its $65 for a pvp.
Even 50k pvp buys is 1.6mil for Zuffa, combined with a 700k gate, that is 2.3mil take from just those 2 revenue streams. There are considerably more than just those 2, but I have no idea what they add up to.
The fighters, the people the fans paid to watch made a reported 550k roughly. Somehow, I don't see it costing the UFC 1.7mil to put on that show. They made a lot of money of these guys.
Don't forget the 200k in perfomance bonuses. Add in the accomidations and flights for fighters and their coach. All of the advertising on billboards and commercials, the cost of all of the workers backstage. The cost to rent an arena. The cost of the annoucers. And just general overhead for the company.
But forget all about that. My main point was people on here just find reasons to complain about everything. They spent the whole week shitting on this card and the people on it and then when they see the fighter pay they get all up in arms that people they have never heard of and said they wouldn't pay to watch aren't making NFL type money.
550k was with the 200k in performance bonuses. If it costs them 1.7mil to put on that event they are doing something wrong.
no it isn't, the pay was 420k before the bonuses so it comes out to 620k. Also don't forget that 4 fighters were pulled off the card last minute. All but Barao got their pay for that as well.
What % of the UFC's profits do you think goes to the fighters? My guess is 15%, I wouldn't be shocked if it was lower...
There should be a push for legislation which says a certain % of take has to go to fighters. If their pay doesn't go over that then amount difference should be split between the fighters on the card, using a sliding scale from top to bottom. As main event fighters and main card fighters deserve more than prelim guys.
Captfireeyes -UGCTT_CloudStrife -If the event sells 50k vs 500k, do those fighter salaries increase? Or do we just assume the UFC gives them a nice locker room bonus?Zeph -UGCTT_CloudStrife -Zeph -UGCTT_CloudStrife -
This is one of the worst cards of the year, I have never heard of any of these people, I wont be buying this show and the UFC will do about 50k buys. - The UG
Fighter pay for 177 is announced
How the hell are these guys getting paid so little money? They deserve to all be millionaires. - The UG
Don't you think their take home should be more than the gate when you consider its $65 for a pvp.
Even 50k pvp buys is 1.6mil for Zuffa, combined with a 700k gate, that is 2.3mil take from just those 2 revenue streams. There are considerably more than just those 2, but I have no idea what they add up to.
The fighters, the people the fans paid to watch made a reported 550k roughly. Somehow, I don't see it costing the UFC 1.7mil to put on that show. They made a lot of money of these guys.
Don't forget the 200k in perfomance bonuses. Add in the accomidations and flights for fighters and their coach. All of the advertising on billboards and commercials, the cost of all of the workers backstage. The cost to rent an arena. The cost of the annoucers. And just general overhead for the company.
But forget all about that. My main point was people on here just find reasons to complain about everything. They spent the whole week shitting on this card and the people on it and then when they see the fighter pay they get all up in arms that people they have never heard of and said they wouldn't pay to watch aren't making NFL type money.
550k was with the 200k in performance bonuses. If it costs them 1.7mil to put on that event they are doing something wrong.
no it isn't, the pay was 420k before the bonuses so it comes out to 620k. Also don't forget that 4 fighters were pulled off the card last minute. All but Barao got their pay for that as well.
What % of the UFC's profits do you think goes to the fighters? My guess is 15%, I wouldn't be shocked if it was lower...
How much of the UFC's 'profits' go to the fighters? The answer is NONE.
'Profits' are what is left over after the UFC takes in its revenues, subtracts expenses, and pays taxes. Fighter pay is a company expense, just like W2 payroll would be for a company with regular employees. Any leftover profit goes straight to the company owners or shareholders, just like it does at EVERY OTHER COMPANY IN THE WORLD.
For reference, General Motors took in total revenues of around $156 billion last year. After paying expenses (including payroll, salaries, cost to build cars, etc.) they were left with a net profit of just $3.8 billion. Margins in the manufacturing world are slimmer than the entertainment world as a general rule, but it's a point of comparison to show you that knowing a company's revenue figures is almost a worthless figure by itself. It tells you absolutely nothing about their profitability, financial stability, or relative net worth.
To use a sports metaphor, it would be like trying to determine how good a batter a baseball player is simply by asking how many at-bats he had in a year.
I love all the Google search finance majors who get in on these threads and start throwing around gate receipts and PPV prices as 'take home' money for the UFC. Almost as funny as all the production and marketing majors who think they know what it costs to put on a major televised production like a UFC event. The UFC could/should pay these guys better but you guys have literally zero clue what percentage of the total company expenses could/should go to fighter pay without having a set of their financial statements. Which you don't have and never will.