I'm not from the states but I was wondering do troops who are employed by the USA not get anybenefit if they are injuri
ed during their employment?
Yes unless it goes undetected until your out of the military. Then its a pain in the ass to get it taken care of
Wow- thats kinda crap.
Well if you don't claim it before you get out you get put on a waiting list behind 200000 other vets (mostly Vietnam). It could take a couple years.
Jmunzies - Well if you don't claim it before you get out you get put on a waiting list behind 200000 other vets (mostly Vietnam). It could take a couple years.
wow thats fucked..
these guys don't know what they are talking about. if you are injured and can no longer perform your duties as a soldier and are discharged you WILL receive some form of permanent compensation depending on the level in addition to cheap insurance coverage for the rest of your life. the amount of disability you receive is based on the severity of the injury. full disability benefits are not huge, but it is a decent amount of money (definitely doesn't make up for the injury, but its something). these other guys that are posting are either misinformed, or being lied to and believe it. i'm sure the system isn't perfect and mistakes get made/injustices, but it's better than any other country's military benefits to be sure.
to the guy that says 'not claim it before you get out' - no kidding you won't get disability because obviously you weren't disabled enough to stop working. if there is a problem people are supposed to seek help for it, if people keep it hidden and are able to work just fine, then that is why they are denied disability - because they aren't disabled.
Most of the 'big' injuries get taken care of while your in. Its not like there are vets walking around with missing limbs or half burned faces (from war) with no compensation.
Son of Scott Ferrozzo - these guys don't know what they are talking about. if you are injured and can no longer perform your duties as a soldier and are discharged you WILL receive some form of permanent compensation depending on the level in addition to cheap insurance coverage for the rest of your life. the amount of disability you receive is based on the severity of the injury. full disability benefits are not huge, but it is a decent amount of money (definitely doesn't make up for the injury, but its something). these other guys that are posting are either misinformed, or being lied to and believe it. i'm sure the system isn't perfect and mistakes get made/injustices, but it's better than any other country's military benefits to be sure.
to the guy that says 'not claim it before you get out' - no kidding you won't get disability because obviously you weren't disabled enough to stop working. if there is a problem people are supposed to seek help for it, if people keep it hidden and are able to work just fine, then that is why they are denied disability - because they aren't disabled.
Ok buddy I have friends who work for the Va. As long as it isn't a major injury your ass gets put on the waiting list.
the "tbi" injuries are of course so much more difficult to assess properly. there are still vietnam era guys who never saw anything close to combat claiming them have ptsd. unfortunately there are vets that try to take advantage of the system sometimes and there are those that SHOULD be using the system that don't. these are typically the guys that cause the biggest problems.
as you noticed, the kept pitching the 'research' portion of the injuries last night. these guys don't need shelter, clothes, or food - they get all that. what the government doesn't cover is the extensive research (mri after mri after mri) and different treatment techniques - that's what many of these charities do. bottom line is that donating to the charities helps good people out in the end and that is what matters.
i don't know if its the government's job to fund research into better treatment for tbi, that sounds like a private sector thing to me. besides, how can it pay for tens of millions of lazy welfare recipients who just don't want to work if it has to foot the bill during a massive recession for all these stupid social welfare programs and extremely costly research? i don't agree with where the funding line is drawn, but that is why.
Jmunzies -Son of Scott Ferrozzo - these guys don't know what they are talking about. if you are injured and can no longer perform your duties as a soldier and are discharged you WILL receive some form of permanent compensation depending on the level in addition to cheap insurance coverage for the rest of your life. the amount of disability you receive is based on the severity of the injury. full disability benefits are not huge, but it is a decent amount of money (definitely doesn't make up for the injury, but its something). these other guys that are posting are either misinformed, or being lied to and believe it. i'm sure the system isn't perfect and mistakes get made/injustices, but it's better than any other country's military benefits to be sure.
to the guy that says 'not claim it before you get out' - no kidding you won't get disability because obviously you weren't disabled enough to stop working. if there is a problem people are supposed to seek help for it, if people keep it hidden and are able to work just fine, then that is why they are denied disability - because they aren't disabled.
Ok buddy I have friends who work for the Va. As long as it isn't a major injury your ass gets put on the waiting list.
exactly, the point is "major" issue. what do you expect, the VA to just rubber stamp "APPROVED" on every application that comes across the desk? i wish the process could be faster to determine legitimate vs. illegitimate claims, but we don't exactly have the money to be throwing around and wasting while we've got tens of millions of losers abusing things like food stamps and welfare. i wish all government programs were as discriminating as the VA, although I hate how slow it works. there are even some assholes on this forum with blue names that admit to being on food stamps. the bottom line is that with any government program, tons of people will try to steal from it. in the case of permanent disability, once you get it, you have it until you die. thats why they have to be so selective.
Son of Scott Ferrozzo -
i don't know if its the government's job to fund research into better treatment for tbi, that sounds like a private sector thing to me. besides, how can it pay for tens of millions of lazy welfare recipients who just don't want to work if it has to foot the bill during a massive recession for all these stupid social welfare programs and extremely costly research? i don't agree with where the funding line is drawn, but that is why.
I presume they got the Brain damage while working for the government - I just thought they should help them out..
ferox13 -Son of Scott Ferrozzo -
i don't know if its the government's job to fund research into better treatment for tbi, that sounds like a private sector thing to me. besides, how can it pay for tens of millions of lazy welfare recipients who just don't want to work if it has to foot the bill during a massive recession for all these stupid social welfare programs and extremely costly research? i don't agree with where the funding line is drawn, but that is why.
I presume they got the Brain damage while working for the government - I just thought they should help them out..
i totally agree with you, and the idea of the system is that they will get help, but a lot of brain injuries aren't very easy to just instantly diagnose. as i said before, once you are declared to have a permanent injury you get compensation for the rest of your life - that being the case the government has to make sure the claim is legitimate since unfortunately a lot of people will lie about stuff to get benefits. as with any government agency, it is inefficient and slow - that is the nature of all government agencies run by shoe clerks and pencil pushers and will that never change. it sucks because the people who end up losing out are the guys with injuries that have to wait around forever until things get worked out.
if people are mad at this sort of thing, they should be angry at the people that abuse government programs. its because of them that the government has to add all these enormously cumbersome and inefficient verification procedures. from people that abuse food stamps to healthcare to welfare - these are people that are screwing injured vets. the system is set up to help the vets, but is so bogged down with trying to not go bankrupt because of all the illegitimate leeches.
Son of Scott Ferrozzo -Jmunzies -Son of Scott Ferrozzo - these guys don't know what they are talking about. if you are injured and can no longer perform your duties as a soldier and are discharged you WILL receive some form of permanent compensation depending on the level in addition to cheap insurance coverage for the rest of your life. the amount of disability you receive is based on the severity of the injury. full disability benefits are not huge, but it is a decent amount of money (definitely doesn't make up for the injury, but its something). these other guys that are posting are either misinformed, or being lied to and believe it. i'm sure the system isn't perfect and mistakes get made/injustices, but it's better than any other country's military benefits to be sure.
to the guy that says 'not claim it before you get out' - no kidding you won't get disability because obviously you weren't disabled enough to stop working. if there is a problem people are supposed to seek help for it, if people keep it hidden and are able to work just fine, then that is why they are denied disability - because they aren't disabled.
Ok buddy I have friends who work for the Va. As long as it isn't a major injury your ass gets put on the waiting list.
exactly, the point is "major" issue. what do you expect, the VA to just rubber stamp "APPROVED" on every application that comes across the desk? i wish the process could be faster to determine legitimate vs. illegitimate claims, but we don't exactly have the money to be throwing around and wasting while we've got tens of millions of losers abusing things like food stamps and welfare. i wish all government programs were as discriminating as the VA, although I hate how slow it works. there are even some assholes on this forum with blue names that admit to being on food stamps. the bottom line is that with any government program, tons of people will try to steal from it. in the case of permanent disability, once you get it, you have it until you die. thats why they have to be so selective.
I never said the Va was screwing anybody. To me it is what it is. If you have something that needs to be addressed, do it while your in.
And I agree with you BTW.
Jmunies, agreed and that is the way the system is set up. if people are foolish enough to wait until they get out to first bring up a problem, then what do they honestly expect? ferox obviously misunderstood what you said since he seemed to shocked and disgusted by it that I wanted to make sure it was clear. the less non-americans ignorantly bashing the US i hear the better. I'm not saying that is what ferox was going to do, but obviously that is what he thought based on your responses without any semblance of explanation or amplifying data. those 2 sentences of yours is what him and many other people will base their entire knowledge of how the US takes care of its injured troops from and I don't think that is a fair shake.
Son of Scott Ferrozzo - Jmunies, agreed and that is the way the system is set up. if people are foolish enough to wait until they get out to first bring up a problem, then what do they honestly expect? ferox obviously misunderstood what you said since he seemed to shocked and disgusted by it that I wanted to make sure it was clear. the less non-americans ignorantly bashing the US i hear the better. I'm not saying that is what ferox was going to do, but obviously that is what he thought based on your responses without any semblance of explanation or amplifying data. those 2 sentences of yours is what him and many other people will base their entire knowledge of how the US takes care of its injured troops from and I don't think that is a fair shake.
You're right but in my defense I'm posting from a smartphone where it takes me a couple minutes to post a couple of sentences. So I didn't want to go into detail.
As a vet the government has taken great care of me. I get PAID to go to college which is FREE. I also get 5 years of free healthcare.