UFC only on espn ?

does this include TUF ? so the only way to watch is order the channel ? that sucks

It sounds like it. So you pay for the app subscription, pay again for the ppv’s, you can’t record the fights, and I bet they still try to sell you corn nuts or try to get you to watch the latest movie on top of that. 

so its on computer not tv ?

even Ultimate Fighter ? Big mistake,They will lose more than half the fans

Aside from Askren fights (I will go to a bar to watch that because I can’t order a PPV now without ESPN+) I’m out.

Been a fan since 1994 but fuck paying for ESPN+ just so I can pay again for a PPV.

Bellator has the door WIDE open to take over if they can find a way to do it.

Winston Wolf - so its on computer not tv ?

pay to pay for a ppv ? are people actually doing this ?

I think the PPVs are going to be a little cheaper than they are now. 

I have no idea what is going on and have no watched an event since they switched to the ESPN crap, well, I did stream the Woodley PPV, part of it anyway. It's even more confusing than it was before. 

i havent watched an event either since the switch

Fan since UFC 2. Except for the occasional trip to the sports bar for the 2 to 3 can’t miss cards each year, I’m out.

FatBuddha - Fan since UFC 2. Except for the occasional trip to the sports bar for the 2 to 3 can't miss cards each year, I'm out.

me too brother we both been long time hard core fans

I’ve streamed PPVs for a long time, I have a wife and kid and am not rich by any standard, so I can’t afford an extra $60 a month. 

I also don’t watch TUF so I don’t mind. Although I do pay for ESPN+ and I have Sling which carries ESPN. 

Winston Wolf - 
FatBuddha - Fan since UFC 2. Except for the occasional trip to the sports bar for the 2 to 3 can't miss cards each year, I'm out.

me too brother we both been long time hard core fans

Most definitely my fellow '01 OG

Winston Wolf - so its on computer not tv ?

Oh Jesus 

Been watching since then ufc 5 and haven't watched one event since the move to ESPN. My cable package doesn't have ESPN and I'm not paying for another damn app. I tapped out 01/01/19!

scrapdo -
Winston Wolf - so its on computer not tv ?

Oh Jesus 

lol!

Smirk -

The older fans need to learn how to work email first before they figure out ESPN+

I'm wondering if these old guys just don't understand technology. I've seen an alarming number of comments where people have no idea what streaming to the TV is or how to do it.

It will get better with a paid ESPN++ account…

TexDeuce - 
Smirk -

The older fans need to learn how to work email first before they figure out ESPN+

I'm wondering if these old guys just don't understand technology. I've seen an alarming number of comments where people have no idea what streaming to the TV is or how to do it.

I never missed an event from '99 until the fightpass era. The only PPV in that time frame I didn't buy was one where Rashad was a main event in a non-title fight. Ended up watching the fights after the fact online the next morning. 

Enter this multi-platform BS of Facebook+Fightpass+Fuel+FS+Whatever... It got really fucking annoying. Once my "streak" was broke, it became easier and easier to miss fights. It WAS an addiction, then became a habbit, and is now moving into an after thought. 

I have transitioned into only watching the big shows (or the main card portion) of events. I was still buying PPV's though. If it's a fight I WANT to see, I have no problem payng for the convenience of ordering it with my remote and watching in full HD. The moment I was forced to hook ANY device up to my TV for a lower quality stream, it is just as easy to stream it from other sources in the same if not better quality. The same as I would a boxing event with only one fight worth watching.

It is what it is. The great thing about being post Zuffa is the quality and reliability of sources to those streams has gone up.