UFC OVERKILL

I realize having a show every 2 or 3 weeks is part of Zuffa's plan to eliminate the competition (even if the competition has better fighters) But won't this backfire on them at some point with watered down shows and weak attendence. Most TUF fans can't tell the difference between two great fighters fighting and two crap fighters. This is done with slick matchmaking so you have a semi-exciting fight between two hacks. I don't think a UFC is gonna sellout for a while...maybe Tito / Chuck in December.

I'm talking about the product not the business. You'd have to be a 'complete retard' to not see that the shows suffer.

you are an idiot if you think the goal of putting on lots of shows is to get rid of competition. like really really dumb.

That's part of it...how stupid are you?

WWE puts on a show every what monday? They are one of the highest rated cable shows...

Seems to me that you need to saturate the public to build your business. There are still millions of people out there who've never heard of UFC.

If the demand is so high, why are these shows not even coming close to selling out? UFC 63 will probably be half full at best.

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"He's saying that the quality of the shows is drastically decreasing while the price increases. They're going to flood the market with themselves, and run the risk of burning out the fans. "
And by doing this no competition can survive even with a higher caliber of fighters.

Fast food and MMA shows is a lame comparison.

Frank Shamrock Signs Multi-Million Dollar Deal

Former UFC champion Frank Shamrock (Pictures) has signed a multi-year, multi-million dollar contract with "The World Fighter," a new mixed martial arts promotion set to debut January 2007, TWF chairman Jorge Elias informed Sherdog.com Wednesday.

Shamrock is slated to fight in Las Vegas on the January pay-per-view card versus a yet-to-be announced opponent.

In addition to main event "super fights," The World Fighter intends to promote tournament-style events pitting 16 fighters per weight class.

Cesar Gracie (Pictures) has been tabbed as the event's matchmaker and he's already signed several fighters, including brothers Nick and Nathan Diaz (Pictures) as well as Jake Shields (Pictures).

Ironically, Shamrock needed just 21 seconds to dispatch Gracie in a Strike Force-promoted contest last March. There had been discussion that the 33-year-old Shamrock would return to Strike Force and fight Phil Baroni (Pictures), but with Baroni fighting in PRIDE in October and Shamrock agreeing to terms with TWF that bout now appears unlikely.

Source: www.sherdog.com

Looks like the UFC is gonna have to have at least 3 Vegas shows in Jan 2007 to try and snuff this out!

"Looks like the UFC is gonna have to have at least 3 Vegas shows in Jan 2007 to try and snuff this out!"

And if Zuffa does not rush to add more January shows, will you admit that they're not doing lots of shows as a mechanism to stifle competition?

With no confirmed date. You can be sure that a UFC will be on the same day.

"I realize having a show every 2 or 3 weeks is part of Zuffa's plan to eliminate the competition (even if the competition has better fighters) But won't this backfire on them at some point with watered down shows and weak attendence. Most TUF fans can't tell the difference between two great fighters fighting and two crap fighters. This is done with slick matchmaking so you have a semi-exciting fight between two hacks. I don't think a UFC is gonna sellout for a while...maybe Tito / Chuck in December."

The UFC's live gates and ppv buys have beein going through the roof. From a recent mmaweekly article:

  • UFC 62 DRAWS THIRD-BIGGEST GATE IN UFC HISTORY Friday, September 01, 2006 - by Ivan Trembow - MMAWeekly.com

"UFC 62 drew the third-biggest live gate in UFC history on August 26th in Las Vegas, Nevada. While the Mandalay Bay Events Center was not sold out, despite repeated claims to the contrary during the pay-per-view broadcast, UFC 62 was still a huge success at the box office, as it managed to become the third event in UFC history to surpass the $3 million mark in gross ticket receipts."

"The total number of tickets sold for the event was 8,954, for a live gate of $3,040,880. In addition, there was 905 free comp tickets that were given away, so the total attendance in the building was 9,859. While the Mandalay Bay Events Center can hold over 11,000 fans with the UFC's set-up, the third-biggest gate in UFC history can still be considered nothing less than an enormous success at the live gate."

"Despite having what was perceived beforehand as a weaker main event (Chuck Liddell vs. Renato Sobral II, along with Forrest Griffin vs. Stephan Bonnar II), UFC 62 still managed to surpass the live gate revenue of UFC 60, which generated $2,900,090 in live gate receipts with the main event of Matt Hughes vs. Royce Gracie."

"The top four live gates in UFC history have all come in 2006. UFC 57 drew the biggest live gate in company history this past February, as the event headlined by Chuck Liddell vs. Randy Couture III generated $3,382,400 in late gate receipts."

"The number two live gate in UFC history was drawn on July 8th by UFC 61, as the event drew a live gate of $3,350,775 with the co-main events of Tito Ortiz vs. Ken Shamrock II and Tim Sylvia vs. Andrei Arlovski III."

And from another article:

  • UFC 61 SURPASSES $30 MILLION IN PPV SALES Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - by Ivan Trembow - MMAWeekly.com

...The initial buyrate estimate for UFC 61 within the pay-per-view industry, as published by the Wrestling Observer, is that the show drew a whopping 775,000 PPV buys. The Observer has been one of the most credible publications for many years when it comes to PPV buyrates, and 775,000 PPV buys at $39.95 per buy equals $30.96 million in gross PPV revenue. The UFC's share of the gross revenue for this and all other PPV events is approximately 50 percent, and all of the PPV figures in this article only take into account domestic PPV buys, which is where the majority of the UFC's PPV buys originate..."

"The mark of 775,000 PPV buys for UFC 61 shatters the previous all-time UFC record that had been set by UFC 60, which had broken the record set by UFC 59, which had broken the record set by UFC 57. In total, four of the UFC's first five PPVs of 2006 broke the company's all-time PPV records, as detailed in our previous article on this subject."

"The initial buyrate estimate for UFC 60 within the pay-per-view industry, as published by the Wrestling Observer and MMAWeekly at the time, was 600,000 buys. MMAWeekly has subsequently learned that the final buyrate for UFC 60 will be in the range of 615,000 to 625,000 buys, which is actually not that much of an increase over the initial buyrate estimate. In total, the gross PPV revenue for UFC 60 was between $24.57 million and $24.97 million. The event, headlined by Matt Hughes vs. Royce Gracie, was the first UFC event to break the $20 million mark in gross PPV sales."

"The first three UFC PPVs of 2006 were also extremely successful. As previously detailed, UFC 57 in February broke all of the UFC's records at the time by drawing 400,000 to 410,000 PPV buys. With the main event of Chuck Liddell vs. Randy Couture III, the event generated between $15.98 million and $16.38 million in gross PPV sales. Impressive as these numbers were and still are, they have now been dwarfed by the PPV sales for UFC 60 and UFC 61."

"UFC 58 in March was headlined by Rich Franklin vs. David Loiseau, and though it did not break UFC 57's record, the event still drew 290,000 to 300,000 PPV buys, which far exceeded the PPV industry's pre-event expectations. UFC 58 carried a fee of $34.95 instead of $39.95, and the gross PPV revenue was between $10.14 million and $10.49 million. When the lowest-drawing PPV event of the year still generates over $10 million in gross PPV sales,"

"UFC 59 in April was technically headlined by Tim Sylvia vs. Andrei Arlovski, but the vast majority of the hype was dedicated to the semi-main event of Tito Ortiz vs. Forrest Griffin. Though it was expected to draw a strong PPV buyrate, UFC 59 surpassed those lofty expectations by breaking the records that had been set by UFC 57. The total number of buys for UFC 59 was in the range of 415,000 to 435,000, which generated gross PPV revenue of $16.58 million to $17.38 million."

"Adding up all of the aforementioned figures and not counting the "late buys" for UFC 61, the total number of PPV buys for the first five UFC PPVs of 2006 was between 2,495,000 and 2,545,000. Taking into account the fact that UFC 58 was priced at $34.95 instead of $39.95, this means that the gross PPV revenue generated by the first five UFC PPVs of 2006 was between $96,230,000 and $100,180,000..."

I think it's clear that the guys at Zuffa know exactly what they're doing.

One question...
WHAT COMPETITION?!

"IFL? They've had what? Two showings on Fox Sports?

Pride? Edited fights on FSN? A brand name that the UFC's target market doesn't even recognize. We're no longer their target market, the TUF fans are. They haven't a clue what the fuck Pride is... as was clearly evidenced by the lack of applause for Silva's appearance on PPV.

So really... what competition is it that you speak of?

Cuz I don't see any. "

Looks like it's working.

If the UFC is doing so well why hasn't fighter pay changed in 10 years?