Daley and Hardy atop the WW division?? lol, no chance in hell.
It's true. Good representation of UK fighters in both the LW and WW divisions.
When Hardy beats Swick the above duo will have taken out the top two previous contenders.
^^and would still be eaten alive by any wrestler/bjj player in the UFC save for Hughes.
da Vinci 81 - Daley and Hardy atop the WW division?? lol, no chance in hell.
yeah, lol indeed. they have both looked AWFUL in the octagon, especially that time when.... oh wait
da Vinci 81 - ^^and would still be eaten alive by any wrestler/bjj player in the UFC save for Hughes.
Your first comment was already addressed, but to reiterate, it is an inarguable fact that Swick x Kampmann was to determine a shot at GSP. Daley destroyed Kampmann, and now Hardy is facing Swick. If Hardy beats Swick, there's no question that he and Daley will be amongst the prime candidates to contest for the belt. (I've not neglected to mention Fitch, Alves, and Koscheck as top 170 fighters, but they're all a couple of wins away from another shot).
As for your thought that they will be "eaten alive by any wrestler/bjj player in the UFC save for Hughes", who would that be? The only wrestlers are Fitch and Kos (maybe throw in Anthony Johnson) and the only pure sub guys are Hazelett and Paulo Thiago. Although all of those fighters represent a difficult match-up for Hardy and Daley stylistically, I don't think I would write it off as an easy win for any of them.
It doesn't matter Daley took out Kampmann and Hardy is fighting Swick, both of them are far too one-dimensional(Daley moreso than Hsrdy).
And maybe not strictly wrestler or sub guys, but ground guys in general will give both of them huge problems. Off the top of my head in the UFC: hazelett, thiago, condit, fitch, kos, johnson, ellenberger, parisyan, almeida, larson.
da Vinci 81 - It doesn't matter Daley took out Kampmann and Hardy is fighting Swick, both of them are far too one-dimensional(Daley moreso than Hsrdy).
And maybe not strictly wrestler or sub guys, but ground guys in general will give both of them huge problems. Off the top of my head in the UFC: hazelett, thiago, condit, fitch, kos, johnson, ellenberger, parisyan, almeida, larson.
I don't entirely disagree, but regardless of the *potential" fighters that could cause them problems, the UFC marketing machine has them at the top of the heap for welterweight contenders. No one you mentioned is even included in the discussion for the next shot at GSP, besides Kos and Fitch, who are several fights away from another crack at him.
I appreciate the discussion though. And the point of the article was not that they're the best fighters, but that they are very high in the running for #1 contender.
fiercedragon - imo, condit gives both hardy and semtex fits...
I agree completely. Condit also gave Kampmann fits, just like Ellenberger gave Condit fits, and Ellenberger would probably give Daley and Hardy fits, etc.
170 is a fucking exciting and stacked division right now.
Yeah, The WW div really needed to be fired up....I'm not saying these fighters can't fight, but one's biggest win is Marcus Davis and the other will just retire at the drop of a hat.
Daley & Hardy are both real good...but coming storming out of the very same camp is "Judo" Jimmy Wallhead....it's criminal that he's not in the UFC...he's like an angry British GSP...with added knock out power.
JCMcGee - Daley & Hardy are both real good...but coming storming out of the very same camp is "Judo" Jimmy Wallhead....it's criminal that he's not in the UFC...he's like an angry British GSP...with added knock out power.
ufc will probably sign wallhead after he beats che mills next month