USA gymnastics = Hypocrites !!!!!!!!

USA gymnastics is going to file a formal protest about China using gymnast that "reportedly" are too young.

specifically He Kexin.


Everyone associated with USA gymnastics is crying about it to the media and on Blogs.

BUT.........


You didn't hear them crying and calling for Paul Hamm to return the Gold medal he "given"in 2004 back to the person who in all rights should have won Tae Young of Korea.

Back then USAG and all the those "midwest" fans said was tough luck, get over it and stop being a whiner.

Sometimes the hypocrisy is so thick it makes you want to gag.

Terrible that people's sense of fairness depends on the nationality or race of the parties involved.

i think it's amazing you took the time to verify that every single person calling foul on the gymnastics was in favor of Hamm keeping the medal. Outstanding work!!!

yeah, but china is evil

China cheated and got caught. I have no problem taking the gold medals from around their ten year old necks and make them cry.

 Not sure how that's hypocritical.

 War Karolyi

 Why would they let Paul Hamm compete in the first place if he was to young?

Is there proof that the chinese were too young? Apart from the fact they looked about 7 years old?

And yeh...if true, the chinese cheated, Hamm 'won' by technicality...a bit different

Steve72 - Not sure how that's hypocritical.


Its hypocritical that USAG was willing to not only tolerate but enjoy the benifits of an injustice in the Paul Hamm case. Paul Hamm didn't derserve his medal and USAG had no problem with the violation of rules that gave it to him in the first place.

But now they want the rules enforced when it would benifit them? Now they are morally outraged?

What rules were violated in the Hamm case? I thought the federation or whatever decided that it's against their rules to go back and change things like that :%

ProMagnus - 
Steve72 - Not sure how that's hypocritical.




Its hypocritical that USAG was willing to not only tolerate but enjoy the benifits of an injustice in the Paul Hamm case. Paul Hamm didn't derserve his medal and USAG had no problem with the violation of rules that gave it to him in the first place.



But now they want the rules enforced when it would benifit them? Now they are morally outraged?


 Well, calling it an "injustice" is a bit of question begging.



The rules WERE enforced in the Hamm case.  Once the score is in, it's the score.  There was an error, but the score was in.  The rule in the case of the Chinese girls (if the accusation is correct)  is that they were not permitted to compete at all.



They are two very different situations.  Certainly, the U.S. is taking a position that is self-beneficial in both situations, but the two positions are not incompatible (which would make them hypocritical).

The rules stated that you score each gymnast's exercise ACCURATELY according to their level of difficlty.

Tae Young was not scored accurately, and it was that that gave Hamm the Gold not Hamm's performance.

ProMagnus - The rules stated that you score each gymnast's exercise ACCURATELY according to their level of difficlty.



Tae Young was not scored accurately, and it was that that gave Hamm the Gold not Hamm's performance.
There was no provision for correction of a score that's been put in.  The score that is ...filed, for lack of a better word, is the official score.  That's the score that was used.



besides which, the U.S. did not score inaccurately...they didn't cheat.  the accusation is that the Chinese cheated.  if anything, the Hamm case would indicate an incompetent judge...not a cheater.



Again, the situations are wholly dissimilar.  You can't accuse the U.S. of hypocracy...just self interest (which is not inherently a bad thing).

 Steve72 has filed the correct.

The judges also missed a 0.2 point deduction on Tae Young's routine. Also if he had been given the extra 0.1 difficulty point, Hamm was going next so he could have adjusted his own routine to compensate. Stripping the medal from Hamm and giving it to Tae Young that far after the fact would have been total rubbish.

 I am genetically unable to spell hipocrisy.

Again we return to the fact that Hamm's medal is illegitimate and USAG had no problem's with him keeping it.

If the Chinese women's Team Gold is illegitimate then it is hypocritical for the US to have a problem with.

USGA's position during Hamm: Illegitimate medals are ok.

USGA's position on China: Illegitimate Medals are not ok.

You can not hold two contradictory position and not be hypocritical.

ERGO

The USGA holds contradictory postions on illegitiamte medals therefore they are HYPOCRITES.

 How is this hypocrisy? The Chinese knowingly had ineligible players competing. The Hamm case seems to stem from an incompetent judge and FIG rules, had nothing to do with the USAG

 Again, you are question begging.  Hamm's medal is legitimate under the rules established by international gymnastics (that the gymnast with the higher official score wins).  If the accusations are true, China's are not because the participants are ineligible to compete.

The two situations are not only distinguishable, they are almost completely unrelated. 

 

Your argument is like saying "well, they supported a man in the Hamm situation and women in the China situation.  Hypocrytes!"

 I think Karoyli said that one of the Chinese kids competed in an event earlier this year and said she was 12 or 14 or something.  The Chinese government then made fake passports to make them old enough to compete.