Volkmann details irritation with health care

correct me if i'm wrong, but hasn't some Obama care all ready been implemented? with more or the last to be implemented within 2 yrs?

Hmm, so "obamacare" would force him to fill out more paperwork even though he's currently filling out a lot of paperwork.
that's his argument?
Kind of a weak complaint.

He should demand all his patients pay cash. 

That's why you hire office staff. Chiros are only "doctors" that can get an AA then spend 3 years in "medical school" and go to messing with and manipulating one of the most sensitive portions of our bodies. When I worked at Palmer Chiropractic College the insanity that was promoted was mind boggling.



They tell a story of a janitor who was deaf and walked with an extreme hunch back. Well DD Palmer, a doctor at that time, had a theory about the alignment of the spine and the bodies ability to heal itself. He places the janitor on a table "adjusts" his back and low and behold he could walk upright again. What else? He could hear.



The reason Chiro's have such problems gettign paid is because the go from active treatment to maintenance very quickly. Maintenance adjustments will last for life and they want companies to cover it. It's bullshit pseudo science. Some Chiros do great Sports Medicine related therapy, but most are ridiculous Kool Aid drinkers.

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I have a whole new respect for Jacob. When he made the comments about Obama and the tonight show bit I thought it was just a fighter voicing political opinions that were unnecessary. After hearing it is because of his business it makes more sense. He conducted himself well and shed some light on things about himself. Will be cheering for him in his next bout.

wow, he has been given a chance to promote himself and the sport by this and is failing.

poor job of explaining his position on health care. poor job explaining why mma is harder than boxing.

i feel for the guy cuz the host was coming on strong with the wrong questions for him to get his point across, but damn this kid is a shoe-gazer.

herculestex1 - correct me if i'm wrong, but hasn't some Obama care all ready been implemented? with more or the last to be implemented within 2 yrs?

Yes it has, I'm not sure where Ironhouse gets his info. A lot of healthcare professionals are up in arms about this, aside from Mr. Christmas. I have worked in the healthcare industry for over 5 years now, dealing mainly with hospitals and health care organizations, and Obamacare is already in place.

ds1970 - Hmm, so "obamacare" would force him to fill out more paperwork even though he's currently filling out a lot of paperwork.
that's his argument?
Kind of a weak complaint.


Actually, it's very valid. Doctors get paid for patient visits, whether you are a primary care physician, a specialist or any other PHD. The problem that Obama's plan presented is MORE paperwork for each doctor, which takes away from time they can provide patient care. The argument here is that they will actually lose money by following the newly established laws.

To give you a great example, a family friend is a renowned orthopedic surgeon. He gets into work around 7AM, works usually until 6 or 7 depending on the number of appointments he has, and then spends his evenings, usually until 11-12 or even 1AM charting. Adding more paperwork on to a physicians plate is in fact a big deal. I can't speak for the life of a chiropractor, but I can tell you that it does impact physicians, more so than you are led to believe.

I think Volkmann has valid points and is expressing similar pains to what I've encountered since the idea first came up. Now I will attest to the fact that the majority of people in healthcare feel it needs to be fixed, but tackling it all at once, in my opinion, is biting off more than you can chew. I'm not saying it won't be successful, but from my experience folks are having a hard time digesting all of the abrupt and consequential changes.

good for jacob !! got a new fan now. hes speaking his mind, nothing wrong with that. he dont like what obamas done, and hes lettin him know.

SlapUsilly - Sounds like a good guy but not too bright.



You gotta pick your battles, either focus on your business, or focus on fighting, don't blame your lack of success on one because of the other.



Focus homie, focus.

If his business fails, it won't be because of "Obamacare" or the current health system..



thats the funniest part, he truly seems sincere and not trying to grandstand. these seem to be a deepseted belief that he is suffering from obama's actions. he even states that obama is an idiot. yet he seems to not have any idea of why he's mad. he would have done just as god to respond to everything with 'i dunno why, just because' seems like a good guy being put in a bad position. another joe the plumber

 

A Dingo Ate My Creepy -  What is so hard to understand.  He's barely breaking even in the real world, and complains about the current paper work and insurance crap he already needs to do.  And he plainly says Obamacare will bring even more of that, which it obviously will.  Taking away from him actually seeing patients.  So it sounds like a legit beef to me. 



Yeah just hire someone when you're barely breaking even, that sounds like a good idea.  And I somehow doubt he's the only doctor of some kind running their own office barely getting by as it is with all the medicare, and insurance, and various other bueaucratic BS they have to deal with on a daily basis. 

 

I commend him for still trying to do it.

on yahoo sports he said his problem was that there would be a cap on how much he could bill. he also said it would be good for patients as they would have coverage but bad for him as he would have a limit on profit per person. i guess he realized the 'i cant squeeze every dime out of a victim' rationale didn't look good in print so he cleaned it up. and as far as paperwork all that was in place before obama was even in the senate

 

Good thing he was not asked about extending Bush tax cuts for the rich.

  1. Some elements of the health care plan, like allowing coverage for pre-existing conditions for children are already in place, some like allowing coverage for pre-existing conditions for adults don't kick in till 2014

    2. Part of the paperwork he does is likely required by insurance companies rather then the government, as they look to limit costs

This guy is a chiropractor, not a Doctor most of them are quacks and crooks that shouldn't even be allowed to bill insurance.

He is a perfect example of why "fighters" should keep their mouths shut and just fight. He sounded really ignorant, and gave no clear example of how any provisions of the law actually affect his business. Another failure looking to point the finger.

Like I said, this guy is a chiropractor, not a Doctor. Chiropractors are a huge problem in terms of costs to insurance companies.

Obama is sure out to get this guy alright.

Way to go UFC guy Volkman.

lol.

chiropractic is complete hookum
might as well burn chicken bones and sprinkle soda water on ur back



I hope there is a God so flim-flam men and scam artists like this can burn in hell

Jeff W - He lives in Minneapolis you fucking retard - we have 3.5 million people here.


You're a fucking retard. He lives where ever he lives, but his practice is in White Bear Lake, Minnesota population 24,325 according to the 2000 census. When you go to a doctor or to your dentist do you drive across your state to go see him? Probably not. Next time slap yourself before you respond to one of my posts.

duckhuntgangsta -

Jeff W - Where's the Minnesota Nice? Just because this poster doesn't know that White Bear is in St. Paul does not justify you being rude. He has good points.


You're right DHG I didn't know that White Bear is in St. Paul, but my point is still valid, not everyone will drive around the city to go to the chiropractor or a doctor. A lot of people will just go to the closest one to them.

Also doctors and chiropractors have relationships with companies and insurance companies where they are in network for some and/or they have previously treated patients for that company, so all new referrals will go to the known doctors. A new doctor is at a disadvantage because they aren't on "the list" where the company knows they can negotiate the prices down so they don't get the referrals. It's a lot of work to market a doctor/chiropractor/medical professional business. The open it and they will come mentality doesn't usually work and complaining about your business on the news also won't help you get many customers.

Volkmann's been complaining about how bad his business is since last year. It's a start up business. Most start up businesses fail.

A Dingo Ate My Creepy -
Yeah just hire someone when you're barely breaking even, that sounds like a good idea. And I somehow doubt he's the only doctor of some kind running their own office barely getting by as it is with all the medicare, and insurance, and various other bueaucratic BS they have to deal with on a daily basis.


He doesn't necessarily have to hire someone else (at least for now), but he probably has to dedicate more time to what he's doing. A lot of successful businesses are because the owner basically dedicated his life to the business as they started it out. Once they have a good profitable business they start expanding and hiring additional help.

 ^^ Here we go again.

 Volkmann is actually a microcosm of the American public. He is a perfect example of why our country, the world's lone super power, and only western country without a public health system, would benefit from such a system.



All he does is complain about how having all these different insurance companies stops him from treating patients and buries him in paperwork. He has to call each insurance company, figure out what they need, and do specialized work for each one. Meanwhile, in a company like France, a doctor has one set of forms for each patient and can see MORE patients in a year.



Volkmann deep down, thinks he is against a public healthcare system, but he, like most Americans, dont understand it because they are inundated with a barrage attacks from big insurance's special interest because they cannot compete with a government system. They think the government in healthcare is bad because fucking Michelle Bachman says it is.



Volkmann would fucking LOVE the public option.

JerseyJoeJitsu -  Volkmann is actually a microcosm of the American public. He is a perfect example of why our country, the world's lone super power, and only western country without a public health system, would benefit from such a system.

All he does is complain about how having all these different insurance companies stops him from treating patients and buries him in paperwork. He has to call each insurance company, figure out what they need, and do specialized work for each one. Meanwhile, in a company like France, a doctor has one set of forms for each patient and can see MORE patients in a year.

Volkmann deep down, thinks he is against a public healthcare system, but he, like most Americans, dont understand it because they are inundated with a barrage attacks from big insurance's special interest because they cannot compete with a government system. They think the government in healthcare is bad because fucking Michelle Bachman says it is.

Volkmann would fucking LOVE the public option.<br type="_moz" />


Great point. I think the problem with a health care system run by the US government is the fact that the US government can't find their ass with both hands. Everyone wants a piece of the pie, and everyone wants a handout.

There is NO WAY a government run health care system in the US would have 1 form for the doctor to fill out. For some reason they seem to like procedures and paperwork. It might work in France, but not here, I just don't see it happening like that.

They have fucked up Social Security and Medicare so bad that they can't be trusted to oversee something like this.