Murray was a legit killer he would have brutalised WM in the worst way. 
Murray would destroy him
The guy doesn't give a fuck about anything, watch the video of him talking shit to Anderson Silva, you get an idea.
It's like saying that I haven't bench pressed in 10 years but I can still get 405.
jon's best (and only) chance would be within the next 3 months. Once he gets used to the food and isn't jacked up on anything (as good as on the outside), then meat. Lee's wiki page is a helluva read
"some people would probably say I was a bully, but a bully to me is someone that goes for easy targets and people who can't fight back. Me, I went for all targets."
Murray would kill him back in the day. Wm has been active so he's the better current fighter. But, Murray wins by 4 seconds into the first round via shank due to knowing the prison system. 
If we're talking right now, WM would kill him. You guys can't be serious.
glasscasket - If we're talking right now, WM would kill him. You guys can't be serious.
I'm not convinced WM would take LM even to this day. Lee Murray was a monster long before he started training. he is a different breed. War Machine wishes he was the Alpha Male LM embodies. I get what you are saying about being active but Lee really is another animal all together.
Lee Murray takes this all day. To be honest, WM is gonna get a new ring piece when he gets to jail. He can only hope it is just when he picks up soap.
stanneh -glasscasket - If we're talking right now, WM would kill him. You guys can't be serious.
I'm not convinced WM would take LM even to this day. Lee Murray was a monster long before he started training. he is a different breed. War Machine wishes he was the Alpha Male LM embodies. I get what you are saying about being active but Lee really is another animal all together.
Another animal? What, an alien? He hasn't trained for years and he's not fighting enough in prison to maintain his reflexes.
Not a good assumption.
One guy is a former stripper/pornstar that is infamous for beating up his girlfriends and other pornstars. The other is a former enforcer in the UK drug trade and involved in one of the biggest bank heists ever
War Machine wouldnt even last a year in a third world prison let alone beat up Murray in the yard. He would end up like that brazilian BJJ bb that had a train run on him.
MMA is not the be all of fighting, plenty of fighters have been beat up by random joes let alone ex fighters
Winner gets Joe Son.
Ain't a sodding great idea to be talking bollocks on Lee, mate. He'd bingo you in your chin faster an' you can say "bloody wanker".
ABE FROMAN -stanneh -glasscasket - If we're talking right now, WM would kill him. You guys can't be serious.
I'm not convinced WM would take LM even to this day. Lee Murray was a monster long before he started training. he is a different breed. War Machine wishes he was the Alpha Male LM embodies. I get what you are saying about being active but Lee really is another animal all together.Another animal? What, an alien? He hasn't trained for years and he's not fighting enough in prison to maintain his reflexes.
Not a good assumption.
Do you know he has not been training at all for a fact? I'm assuming he has access to a gym to keep in shape he has fuck all better to do.
do you know he hasn't had to fight at all?
please share what you know as you make it sound like he has sat on his ass this whole time. for all we know he may have access to a gym and could be training like crazy just to pass the time away he could be in crazy shape he has fuck all better to do.
JohnMorgansBlueShirt - Are we talking today's version of each guy?
it's been 10 years since Murray had a pro fight or trained seriously for one. plus the shitty food and whatever drug use must of been bad for his body. WM right now takes him.
stanneh -ABE FROMAN -stanneh -glasscasket - If we're talking right now, WM would kill him. You guys can't be serious.
I'm not convinced WM would take LM even to this day. Lee Murray was a monster long before he started training. he is a different breed. War Machine wishes he was the Alpha Male LM embodies. I get what you are saying about being active but Lee really is another animal all together.Another animal? What, an alien? He hasn't trained for years and he's not fighting enough in prison to maintain his reflexes.
Not a good assumption.
Do you know he has not been training at all for a fact? I'm assuming he has access to a gym to keep in shape he has fuck all better to do.
do you know he hasn't had to fight at all?
please share what you know as you make it sound like he has sat on his ass this whole time. for all we know he may have access to a gym and could be training like crazy just to pass the time away he could be in crazy shape he has fuck all better to do.
Sorry to butt in here but think i read a few years ago that lee was still training with a former kickboxing champion that was in the same jail in morocco, maybe someone else knows more about this than me.
Lee Murray is 36, way past his prime, been in the joint for a long time. War Machine is in his prime. Anyone who thinks WM wouldn't destroy and old, out of shape ex-fighter in LM is dreaming. Yeah I think WM is a piece of shit and I would love to see him get beat up and everything, but looking at this match up from an calculated perspective, not an emotional one, I would have to give the edge to WM.
^^^^^Murray fights almost everyday! What are you talkin about?^^^^^
stanneh -ABE FROMAN -stanneh -glasscasket - If we're talking right now, WM would kill him. You guys can't be serious.
I'm not convinced WM would take LM even to this day. Lee Murray was a monster long before he started training. he is a different breed. War Machine wishes he was the Alpha Male LM embodies. I get what you are saying about being active but Lee really is another animal all together.Another animal? What, an alien? He hasn't trained for years and he's not fighting enough in prison to maintain his reflexes.
Not a good assumption.
Do you know he has not been training at all for a fact? I'm assuming he has access to a gym to keep in shape he has fuck all better to do.
do you know he hasn't had to fight at all?
please share what you know as you make it sound like he has sat on his ass this whole time. for all we know he may have access to a gym and could be training like crazy just to pass the time away he could be in crazy shape he has fuck all better to do.
Do I need to know that or can we use common sense? Do you know of a prison that allows high level MMA training? Do you know if they are running a school in Lee's prison that has kept up with the modern MMA in both stamina and technique? I mean, even Anderson Silva wasn't Anderson Silva in 2004, right?
Nobody said he sat on his ass, what I said was he hasn't kept up. He hasn't. How could he?
A former high level enforcer against a glorified rent boy?
Lee wins
And anyone who thinks he's wasting away in prison crying himself to sleep needs to wake up he is still the same extremely dangerous psycho he's always been. People need to realise he dabbled in MMA and it wasn't his main income