Was there a judoka in UFC 1?

I was wondering if besides Royce if there was a grappling based martial artist in that tournament? Or since it was supposed to be a showcase for Jiu Jitsu, if Royce was the only one? Phone Post

Don't remember. I do remember some judo player player who had some guy in a crucifix and won by KO from punches.

oh yeah, Jayflo said USA judo silver medalist, Joey Wanag, tried out but was denied to take part after beating others. No confirmation, though.

There wasn't. It would have been very interesting if Pawel Nastula (who was in his athletic prime in 1993) had entered-especially if Royce wore his gi. Yamashita (1984 olympic gold medalist) or Kashiwazaki (1981 world champ) may have been able to give Royce a good fight on the ground, if not be able to beat him (especially with the weight advantage that Yamashita would have had). He certainly would not have been beaten very quickly like Royce's other opponents.

UFC 2 had Remco but the UFC over-inflated his judo credientials. He beat Orland Weit after a nice throw and some vicious elbows. He lost to Royce in the semi's. Remco seemed scared of Royce, to be honest and seemed content to have won his first two fights.

khd29 - Don't remember. I do remember some judo player player who had some guy in a crucifix and won by KO from punches.


big daddy? he did not rep judo and that was not ufc 1. shamrock was only real submission specialist at ufc 1 but he has also been linked to suspicious fights.

so basically there was no judoka, no sambo expert, or any other related art (aside shootfighting, repped by ken) nor was there another true force representing the other arts (no karelin for wrestling, no tyson for boxing, etc).

early ufc was essentially an infomercial for bjj, and although there were inherent risks taken, the risks were also strategically minimized

khd29 - Don't remember. I do remember some judo player player who had some guy in a crucifix and won by KO from punches.


That was Remco.

That was UFC 2.

Those were elbows.

Leninger entered UFC 3 and lost to a very motivated Ken Shamrock. He later fought Guy Metzger to a decision a few years later. The same tournament that Guy beat Tito Ortiz to win the middleweight tournament.

Another judoka who could have possibly have given Royce problems was Gokor (Gene LeBell's top student).

And, of course, Oleg Taktarov was a lifelong judoka but he did not arrive until UFC 5. I believe he was cornered by Gokor that night.

After UFC 1, but Renzo beat a very good Judo fighter in Spijkers at the WCC.

UFC 2. Thanks.

kumikata, I read in an article long ago that Rickson said that Yamashita was the best at newaza in the world at his prime. Don't remember the source though.

Watched the Yamashita HL and that guy was just viciously fast and aggressive in newaza. The way it should be.

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Yamashita was vicious on the ground, especially chokes/strangles. Kashiwazaki was better than Yamashita (pound-for-pound) but Yamashita had over 100 lbs on him so I'm sure that he would win if they ever rolled.

Neil Adams (1981 world champ) is another one of the few people who would have had a chance of beating Royce in 1993. I have no idea how well Neil would have been able to deal with strikers though. Pat Smith was a great puncher but Ken took him out pretty quick with a leglock.

Well Im sure when the Tourny members heard "fight" they assumed stand up completely for the most part and so Kens leglock and Royces style through them off obviously, and then wonder how judokas, wrestlers, sambo practinors would handle the situation. I think if Judo was in there that would put some spotlight off BJJ though, so yeah makes sense why it wasnt in there Phone Post

Since there's a theme this week of comparing who would have done well against Royce/BJJ in the early UFCs's, let's be honest and remember that Royce was nowhere near the best representative.

If you want to go in hindsight and wonder how various Olympic judokas etc., would have done against BJJ, then you should be wondering how they would have done if Rickson or someone else was picked to represent in the UFC instead of Royce.

Even then, Royce did go on to beat Remco Pardoel...though not an Olyimpian, he was 260 pounds and no daisy.

yes it was there to advertize GJJ but you can't undermine what Royce achieved.

Moke - Since there's a theme this week of comparing who would have done well against Royce/BJJ in the early UFCs's, let's be honest and remember that Royce was nowhere near the best representative.

If you want to go in hindsight and wonder how various Olympic judokas etc., would have done against BJJ, then you should be wondering how they would have done if Rickson or someone else was picked to represent in the UFC instead of Royce.

Even then, Royce did go on to beat Remco Pardoel...though not an Olyimpian, he was 260 pounds and no daisy.
This is very true. If there was More elite grapplers, then Royce would not of been in there possibly Phone Post

 Hammaker repped Sambo in UFC 2 how accomplished was he?

 there was a sambo guy in an early ufc that won his terrible fight but didnt continue on...

There were 10s or 100s judokas at the time who would've won UFC1.

But Royce did.

I dont believe stories about not letting judokas fight in the event, most likely there was no interest in such competion on their side, that's all.

Even now top judokas in their prime are completely not interested in MMA - Lombard, Rousey and Fedor switching to MMA are the only exeptions.