Holy christ, just watched the fight and can't believe people are saying Mark manhandled anyone, this fight had not even started to get heated up and shogun was going for subs already. Great takedowns from Mark but did you think he would not get the takedown, i heard he knows a little about wrestling... Anyways, great to see Mark looking like a cardio machine, I'm interested in seeing if he is or not...
That said, roids are still bad for you...
p.s. I'm not a CB fan at all, love to see these guys get beat but this fight was not a loss.
Mark had his ankles, Shogun turned away, FELL and broke his elbow. Mark grabbing his ankles had no impact on his fall, he did not throw him, he did not slam him.
Shogun in no way was getting owned in that fight. I don't know how the hell he broke his arm, as he did not seem to get taken down that hard. I guess just a freak accident. What sucks is that he might be out for a while.
Shogun was trying to move like a lighter version of himself, Coleman clearly going for a double leg, and Shogun tripped up as he tried to scramble out of it.
Clearly since both of their actions lead to the injury, not just Shogun falling on his own, you have to say what Coleman did impacted the outcome, therefore it is a legit win.
This is the silliest argument since the Arona-Rampage 'headbutt' slam. If Rampage wouldnt have been slamming Arona, he wouldnt have been ko'd, the head or the mat causing it is incidental. If Coleman wouldnt have been tripping Shogun up, then he wouldnt have fallen the same way.
Another awful thread. This Pride, which most haven't even seen, is really bringing out the idiots.
Yeah, Coleman was doing well. But he had no offense; Shogun was on the offensive with one sub after another. Coleman grabbed his ankle and tripped him; Shogun landed on his elbow and wrecked it. The end.
My guess is Shogun eventually would have caught Mark in a sub or KO'd him after Coleman gassed -- I doubt Coleman's fearsome GnP would have finished Shogun -- but who knows?
I'm not disputing that Coleman has a 'W' in his column, but the way several guys here are going on about how Shogun got beaten up/exposed/manhandled is just plain funny.