We may be in the one place where life is possible

Mindblowing stuff. Apparently, not all the constants in the universe are constant throughout the universe. 

The Anthropic or Fine-Tuning principle may be even stranger than we thought:

 

 

Our solar system is in a unique area of the universe that's conducive to life, says John Webb and his colleagues at the University of New South Wales, who have carried out intensive study that threatens to turn the world of theoretical physics upside down.

The team studied the fine structure in the spectral lines of the light from distant quasars from data from the Very Large Telescope (VLT) in Chile with stunning results that showed that one of the constants of nature --the Alpha appears to be different in different parts of the cosmos, supporting the theory that our solar system is in a part of the universe that is "just right" for life, which negates Einstein's equivalence principle, which states that the laws of physics are the same everywhere.

The "magic number," known as Alpha or the fine-structure constant, appears to vary throughout the Universe, concluded the team from the University of New South Wales, Swinburne University of Technology and the University of Cambridge.

"What they found threatens to turn the world of theoretical physics upside down," said theorectical physicist, Paul Davies of Arizona State in an article in Cosmos this past January. "On the face of it, α has slightly different values in different parts of the Universe, implying that the fine structure constant is not a constant at all, but varies over cosmological distances and times."

"This finding in 2015 was a real surprise to everyone," said John Webb of the University of New South Wales in Sydney, Australia. The change in the constant appears to have an orientation, creating a "preferred direction", or axis, across the cosmos, an idea that was dismissed more than 100 years ago with the creation of Einstein's special theory of relativity.

“After measuring alpha in around 300 distant galaxies, a consistency emerged: this magic number, which tells us the strength of electromagnetism, is not the same everywhere as it is here on Earth, and seems to vary continuously along a preferred axis through the Universe,” said Webb.

“The implications for our current understanding of science are profound. If the laws of physics turn out to be merely “local by-laws”, it might be that whilst our observable part of the Universe favors the existence of life and human beings, other far more distant regions may exist where different laws preclude the formation of life, at least as we know it.

“If our results are correct, clearly we shall need new physical theories to satisfactorily describe them.”

The researchers' conclusions are based on new measurements taken with the Very Large Telescope (VLT) in Chile, along with their previous measurements from the world’s largest optical telescopes at the Keck Observatory, in Hawaii.

More here: http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2016/08/our-solar-system-is-in-a-unique-part-in-the-universe-just-right-for-life.html

without reading I am going to guess there will be people claiming that this is evidence of god

LastMinuteReplacement - without reading I am going to guess there will be people claiming that this is evidence of god


Evidence of High Strangeness, at least.

Later Phone Post 3.0

Similar line of argument as found in the documentary the privileged planet.

Wow. The more we learn the stranger the universe seems to become. Its simply overwhelming to try to wrap your head around it Phone Post 3.0

a better thread name would be. "we may be in the one place where our life is possible".

No where in that does it infer that no other life would be possible.

Makes taking care of our shit even more important if true cuz that means we cant just up and leave if technology makes it possible.

How am I supposed to take them seriously when the best name they could come up with for their apparently very large telescope, was "Very Large Telescope"? Phone Post 3.0

Aliens may have already visited Earth but found no intelligent life here.

Always liked this phrase:

Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.

Arthur C. Clarke Phone Post 3.0

So glad I was born on earth.

pulsar -


Similar line of argument as found in the documentary the privileged planet.

Better check yo privilege, earthling! Phone Post 3.0

Soup Nazi - Aliens may have already visited Earth but found no intelligent life here.
This is actually a great thing to think about. We may not even know what real intelligence is. That's some hippy stoner stuff right there. Think about a fish who lives it's whole life and only knows the reality of the ocean. It may swim to the surface, look at the sky above and wonder what's beyond the water the same way we do with space. Also what if CAT really spelled dog?

-Oger Phone Post 3.0

Squirrel, Blue Belt - How am I supposed to take them seriously when the best name they could come up with for their apparently very large telescope, was "Very Large Telescope"? Phone Post 3.0


Geek humor tends towards the Monty Pythonesque.

chaplinshouse - 

That's a bunch of shit.  All that's needed for life possibility is mild temps that allow for water.  Referred to as "goldilocks zones".  VLT, lol



There's a couple of hundred other factors that have been identified - presence in a section of a galaxy where the radiation level is mildly mutagenic but not too mutagenic, sufficient heavy metals in the planetary core, etc. etc. This is just new evidence, if it turns out to be true.

Jack Kinghoff - 
pulsar -


Similar line of argument as found in the documentary the privileged planet.

Better check yo privilege, earthling! Phone Post 3.0


"Earthling Privilege" is the next thing we'll be made to feel guilty about.

 Here is an interesting theory and it's relatively a short read. Basically it discusses a topic called the "Great filter" and why we have had no contact with intelligent life.

http://www.nickbostrom.com/extraterrestrial.pdf

I'm of the opinion personally, that we haven't even found any intelligent life on earth but that's a different story. It's a good read check it out, it's short. No God shit in it.


We may be one of the few places where everything is right, and we may be the earliest to evolve or develop sentience and science.



We are truly alone in our Local Cluster, I think.



Be sure and watch the vid above, also.



 

The Stewed Owl - 
LastMinuteReplacement - without reading I am going to guess there will be people claiming that this is evidence of god


Evidence of High Strangeness, at least.


I prefer this type of Strangeness

http://turtlepedia.wikia.com/wiki/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles_%26_Other_Strangeness

Life as we know it.

There are probably lifeforms in environments that are incomprehensible to us.