A lot of No-Gi tournaments dont allow it at all. The reason is that you are typically NOT allowed to grab your opponents clothes at all. This means you can not grab his shirt, or shorts, and the same holds true for the gi. So you wouldnt be able to grab his gi pants.
On the positive side (which I will explain why its not allowed), is that you have much more cloth (long gi pants) to grab of your your own pants, which can help actually land submissions because of it. Think about it like this, if you allow gi pants, why not also allow a Gi top?
You would have to make it illegal for an opponent to grab your gi top (because its illegal to grab any clothes in no-gi competition), and you can allow the guy wearing his gi to use it as a weapon to choke and submit.
It makes it very unfair, so a lot of competitions dont allow it at all.
Thanks for the reply! I hadn't given any thought to the legality of wearing the pants. It makes sense to outlaw them for the reasons you gave. But if a tournament allows them, I think I'd wear them.
I didn't check the rules for the Best of the West tournament last weekend, so I'm glad I didn't wear them. Might have gotten DQed!
ANAGA and GQ allow you to grab clothing. Most guys grab onto your shorts to open your guard anyway...
Are u serious? Whenever I grabbed the shorts in GQ in March, the ref told me to quit grabbing the shorts. Was it a confusion on the refs part, or are u sure u can grab clothing?
People have turned up at GQ in stuff like luchador masks and pimp suits (guy got choked out), so I don't think grabbing is technically against the rules, but alot of refs don't allow it.
Personally I think clothing should not be allowed for gripping but long sleeve rash guards should just be mandated for the sport so there is no variation. Maybe vale tudo shorts should be mandated too. Clothing should not be the basis for the game or they might as well put the gis back on.
If you have to resort to grabbing someones shorts or rashguard...you are in trouble in the long run.
Are you kidding me bro? If you train gi, you know how easy it is to dominate someone by manipulating their pants, shorts, or any clothes. You can completely dominate someone by manipulating clothes.
Pants should be alowed to grab and should be allowed in all mma orgs to. Because pants are realistic. Jackets arent really reastic.
This is silly. This is YOUR subjective assessment of "realistic." I imagine we shouldn't all consult to you or one person for their assessment of whats realistic or not.
I consider sub. wrestling to be a self-contained sport and don't care about what it supposedly represents. In fact if I could figure out a way to make it work I would come up with a system whereby the only way to win was by tapout. Making the clothing worn for this specific sport uniform across the board just moves it to a more professional level and no part of the game should be based on cloth grips.
I have been wearing gi pants for no-gi training recently and have found that the advantage of extra control from the guard outways the advantage to the other guy of cloth to grab.