"Temperance is,unfortunately,one of those words that has changed it's meaning. It now usually means teetotalism. But in the days when the second Cardinal virtue was christened 'Temperance", it meant nothing of the sort. Temperance referred not specially to drink, but to all pleasures; and it meant not abstaining, but going the right length and no further. It is a mistake to think that Christians ought all to be teetotalers; Islam, not Christianity is the teetotal religion. Of course it may be the duty of a particular Christian, or of any Christian, at a particular time, to abstain from strong drink either because he is the sort of man who cannot drink at all without drinking too much, or because he wants to give his money to the poor, or because he is with people who are inclined to drunkenness and must not encourage them by drinking himself. But the whole point is that he is abstaining, for a good reason, from something which he does not condemn and which he likes to see other people enjoying. One of the marks of a certain type of bad man is that he cannot give up a thing himself without wanting everyone else to give it up. That is not the Christian way. An individual Christian may see fit to give up all sorts of things for special reasons-marriage, or meat, or beer, or the cinema; but the moment he starts saying the things are bad themselves, or looking down his nose at other people who do use them, he has taken the wrong turning".

what do ya think?

yours in Christ


yeah,yeah I know...it's only the 14,th

yours in Christ


"One of the marks of a certain type of bad man is that he cannot give up a thing himself without wanting everyone else to give it up."

I have a hard time with this one...it drives me insane to watch someone eat a big fat steak on Fridays during Lent, when I cannot eat meat. If I can't have it, nobody should be able to!!!! LOL, I guess I am a certain kind of a bad man...

well ND one should not do something that would lead another to sin..which is what lewis is also saying. i might have a steak on friday during lent..if I was having dinner with my wife..But if we were having lunch or dinner then i would have the salmon, out of respect for you.

yours in Christ


Good thought...

As an aside, I think I might just completely fast this coming Lent. No food whatsoever...on Fridays, that is.

Excellent quote. I'll note C.S. liked his beer! He and Tolkien and the rest used to stay up nights drinking and talking.


where you getting these quotes from?? they seem to me to be from essays or such like, rather than his novels

I'ld be interested in the source, as he is a smart cookie and very inspirational


Lewis is definitely one of the sharper tools in the shed.

Thanks pastorsherm!

yix, they are from the Book "The Joyful Christian" I was going to buy the "Quotable Lewis" but my book shelf isnt that big lol

yours in Christ


thanks Sherm, think I'll track that one down