To think we once accused Schaub of being Turok. I once proclaimed Chris Weidman the future GOAT of MMA. But as of right now, I have absolutely no evidence to back that up.
His average UFC opponent's age? 34. 34. That includes his first 3 unimportant victories over Sakara, Lawler and Bongfeldt.
The average age of ranked opponents starting with Maia? 36. 30 fucking 6. But let's not stop at the age. Let's look at where his opponents fared afterwards.
Maia: Going strong. The catch? He left to fight in the weight class he always should have been fighting in. Never fought at MW again.
Munoz: Went 2-3 after Weidman including being finished in all 3. It quickly became apparent that he was getting too old to fight.
Silva: Had a lacklustre performance against a MW in a competitive fight while goosed up on roids. 40-years-old now and finished.
Maia: Stopped in his two next fights. Finished as a serious contender.
Belfort: We have all seen the photos. Finished.
Weidman simply does not hold a single victory over a prime opponent, or even an old opponent that went on to prove they were still relevant at MW after fighting him.
Silva's lackluster performance was against a WW I should correct. And if you play the 'Diaz has fought at MW card', Silva has fought at LHW. He is simply a bigger man.
And the second 'Maia' should say Machida. Apparently I am going senile too.
He has wins over 2 currently active, currently top 10 guys in his division. If thats not solid as concrete, i dont know what else is!!
Stop . You . Idiot 
Dr Doom - To think we once accused Schaub of being Turok. I once proclaimed Chris Weidman the future GOAT of MMA. But as of right now, I have absolutely no evidence to back that up.I agree.
His average UFC opponent's age? 34. 34. That includes his first 3 unimportant victories over Sakara, Lawler and Bongfeldt.
The average age of ranked opponents starting with Maia? 36. 30 fucking 6. But let's not stop at the age. Let's look at where his opponents fared afterwards.
Maia: Going strong. The catch? He left to fight in the weight class he always should have been fighting in. Never fought at MW again.
Munoz: Went 2-3 after Weidman including being finished in all 3. It quickly became apparent that he was getting too old to fight.
Silva: Had a lacklustre performance against a MW in a competitive fight while goosed up on roids. 40-years-old now and finished.
Maia: Stopped in his two next fights. Finished as a serious contender.
Belfort: We have all seen the photos. Finished.
Weidman simply does not hold a single victory over a prime opponent, or even an old opponent that went on to prove they were still relevant at MW after fighting him.
Real interesting perspective. Will play into my mma betting next time
Oontyex - He has wins over 2 currently active, currently top 10 guys in his division. If thats not solid as concrete, i dont know what else is!!
As in the 37-year-old on a 2-fight finished brutally streak and the 37-year-old who is no longer allowed to use testosterone his body now needs and is falling apart in front of our eyes?
Boy, that certainly refutes my argument that he has fought old fighters who subsequently went on to become irrelevant. Call me when Lyoto or Vitor beats a contender after fighting Weidman.
rrefs - Stop . You . Idiot
Care to tell me which part I got wrong?
The average age or the fact that all of his opponents either severely declined or at least have shown no indication of being serious contenders at MW ever again after fighting him?
Do you normally get upset when people present you with facts?
Do you think Lyoto is in his prime at 37 and suffering consecutive maulings? Silva at 40 with a broken leg and no roids? Vitor at 37 with no testosterone and looking like he has hit menopause? Did Munoz go on to destroy contenders before retiring? Did Maia ever fight at MW again?
your the one upset and in correct.His next fight is Rockholdso be quiet until its over
I agree a little bit. It will for sure be interesting to see him fight Rockhold and then Sousa if he wins. He beats those two and I will fill on the Weidman train.
I like Weidman but what OP is saying is all true.
Not saying he won't be as good as he says he is but it's definitely yet to be proven. That's why this fight against Rockhold is so damn interesting.
Winston Wolf - your the one upset and in correct.His next fight is Rockholdso be quiet until its over
Thank you for agreeing that I am correct. However, I am not upset with anybody. Not even you for being so drunk you have lost the ability to formulate basic sentences, you cheeky little scamp.
Winston Wolf - your the one upset and in correct.His next fight is Rockholdso be quiet until its over
Chill Winston.
Nobody can dispute any of this. Vu op
This is all true but at one point people said the same about Jon Jones and he completely proved them wrong.
AlchemyIronworks - This is all true but at one point people said the same about Jon Jones and he completely proved them wrong.
True. But the evidence shows that it wasn't close to as bad as Weidman's run.
His 'contender' winnings started with the 27-year-old undefeated Bader, then he won the title off a 30-year-old Shogun, then a 32-year-old Rampage, then a 32-year-old Rashad, then a 33-year-old Machida, then a 34-year-old Vitor, then a young buck in Gus at 26 before some oldies again in Glover at 34 and DC at 36.
Not only is the age level several important years below at an average age of 31.5, but all of these guys, except for Rampage who has never looked anywhere near his prime since, have delivered strong performances after they fought Jones, including the oldest guy who won the title in his next fight.
If we are going to be honest, there was nothing in Machida's performance vs Weidman that suggests he was past it. But he was right on the cusp of decline.
Rockhold is gonna test all areas of his game...predict Weidman by close decision like 48-47
I mean I guess what op is saying is true.
But it is also true that weidman was fighting the best guys in the division at the time who just happened to be older.
Rockhold also got knocked out by one of those same old guys.
Rockhold is an awesome fighter and if age is your major criteria for credible opponents, he should be a solid representative of prime age.
Also important to note, I believe two of the "rising contenders" in the division are already in their upper 30s (jacare and romero) so I don't know how that will factor into op's formula.
Do you want him to fight less proven, worse fighters who are 28?
andrewwarner - Also important to note, I believe two of the "rising contenders" in the division are already in their upper 30s (jacare and romero) so I don't know how that will factor into op's formula.
Do you want him to fight less proven, worse fighters who are 28?
I am certainly not blaming him. The 'Turok' comment is a little unfair; Schaub was actively hunting dinosaurs, Weidman was just blasting them as they stepped into his house.
You can only fight what is available. But he is 'unproven' in terms of his future legacy at this point. Too many questions about too many opponents.
The same will go for Romero and Jacare. If he beats them and suddenly they lose their 3 fights in a row, then there will be doubts. If they smash their next 3 opponents, there won't be. That's the issue with fighting guys over 35.
Hence why Rockhold is key. If he smashes him, he removes a lot of doubt. If he gets smashed by him, everything he has achieved up until this point has a question mark over it.