With all the speculation about what a steroid, HGH, insulin or PED abuser looks like.
I thought I would clarify what a clean MMA fighter looks like.
There are limits to how in shape you can get without drugs.
Blue sucker please
https://usatmmajunkie.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/ben-askren-one-fc-161.jpg?w=1000
http://vemmanews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/6428.jpg
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I hate to say it, but if your favorite fighter is much more ripped or anything than Askren he is a cheater.
"Genetics how do they work"
Exactly like this.
This is what 170+ lbs men look like without roids.
You don't get some ridiculous 8 pack without cheating or starving yourself in a unhealthy fashion.
Nobody in MMA has ever exhibited better natural conditioning than Askren.
Conor McGregor for instance has a great 8 pack core, but he's hiding @ 145 from his natural weight class.
If he quit hiding he would look like Ben Askren.
That ripped 8 pack is a sign of fear.
Next.
CerroneWentFuryOnJurysAss - With all the speculation about what a steroid, HGH, insulin or PED abuser looks like.It's a good point, an obvious point, but a point most will say you're talking bullshit about..
I thought I would clarify what a clean MMA fighter looks like.
There are limits to how in shape you can get without drugs.
Blue sucker please
https://usatmmajunkie.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/ben-askren-one-fc-161.jpg?w=1000
http://vemmanews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/6428.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQukmcPZma28NGaIXFkRC1gL5P19cgWcSmWCc4DfaVc5hYQJ87D
I hate to say it, but if your favorite fighter is much more ripped or anything than Askren he is a cheater.
"Genetics how do they work"
Exactly like this.
This is what 170+ lbs men look like without roids.
You don't get some ridiculous 8 pack without cheating or starving yourself in a unhealthy fashion.
Nobody in MMA has ever exhibited better natural conditioning than Askren.
VU regardless, you don't look like Lombard without juicing. You don't get shoulders twice as thick as your waist without juicing. We could all name ten fighters that we know for a fact are juicing, but what's the point. A good step would be to test guys who are pretty obviously using shit first
Ironically his supposed opponent Rory is the prime example of what work in the gym does do for you. He'll probably get busted now to negate my point, but whatever, lol
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Vic Vinegar -It's so naive to think Roy doesn't because he has a gut.
We don't know.
^ agreed. PEDs do not necessarily equal shredded body. lately, no fighter failing a test would surprise me. if you're an over eating fatty, you're still going to be an over eating fatty on steroids but stronger with shorter recovery time.
CerroneWentFuryOnJurysAss - With all the speculation about what a steroid, HGH, insulin or PED abuser looks like.
I thought I would clarify what a clean MMA fighter looks like.
There are limits to how in shape you can get without drugs.
Blue sucker please
https://usatmmajunkie.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/ben-askren-one-fc-161.jpg?w=1000
http://vemmanews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/6428.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQukmcPZma28NGaIXFkRC1gL5P19cgWcSmWCc4DfaVc5hYQJ87D
I hate to say it, but if your favorite fighter is much more ripped or anything than Askren he is a cheater.
"Genetics how do they work"
Exactly like this.
This is what 170+ lbs men look like without roids.
You don't get some ridiculous 8 pack without cheating or starving yourself in a unhealthy fashion.
Nobody in MMA has ever exhibited better natural conditioning than Askren.
askren not exactly a physical specimen. if they are more ripped than him they are cheating? do you tell yourself that when you go to the gym? or if they have a little belly fat then they're clean,
oooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhkkkkayy.
ThinkMMA -Distended stomach. Definitely roidingVic Vinegar -It's so naive to think Roy doesn't because he has a gut.
We don't know.
Casual Kiwi -Would test positive for BLT!ThinkMMA -Distended stomach. Definitely roidingVic Vinegar -It's so naive to think Roy doesn't because he has a gut.
We don't know.
kungfufedor -LolCasual Kiwi -Would test positive for BLT!ThinkMMA -Distended stomach. Definitely roidingVic Vinegar -It's so naive to think Roy doesn't because he has a gut.
We don't know.
Dude, my high school wrestling teammate at 152 was shredded to the gills. His abs had abs. And he was poor as shit. No chance of him ever using. Some people have ridiculous genes. Check out the traditional African wrestling vids on YouTube. Those guys can't possibly be on sauce.
ThinkMMA -This. The eye test doesnt work. Ben rothwell used and he has high body fatVic Vinegar -It's so naive to think Roy doesn't because he has a gut.
We don't know.
Endurance, where you hold your fat, how wide your shoulders are, how much muscle you hold...these are all genetic variables.
I'm sorry, but it's just not that easy to tell. Even in your Connor example...most people when they get super lean due to calorie restriction and hard training, will also lose muscle size. 99% of people cannot lose weight without losing muscle. So the thing to look for when someone is likely cheating, is that they are super shredded (and/or fight below their natural weight class), yet still hold lots of muscle volume. For that, Connor is a prime example. Now I'm not saying Connor uses PEDs (because I don't think he does), but it shows that genetic variations cover lots of ground, even beyond what's typical.
LOL, so I read the thread title and expected to see the OP just be a blank post.
CerroneWentFuryOnJurysAss - With all the speculation about what a steroid, HGH, insulin or PED abuser looks like.
I thought I would clarify what a clean MMA fighter looks like.
There are limits to how in shape you can get without drugs.
Blue sucker please
https://usatmmajunkie.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/ben-askren-one-fc-161.jpg?w=1000
http://vemmanews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/6428.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQukmcPZma28NGaIXFkRC1gL5P19cgWcSmWCc4DfaVc5hYQJ87D
I hate to say it, but if your favorite fighter is much more ripped or anything than Askren he is a cheater.
"Genetics how do they work"
Exactly like this.
This is what 170+ lbs men look like without roids.
You don't get some ridiculous 8 pack without cheating or starving yourself in a unhealthy fashion.
Nobody in MMA has ever exhibited better natural conditioning than Askren.
how many times he was tested OOC?
kungfufedor -Bullshit... there's no cheese or beef in a BLT.Casual Kiwi -Would test positive for BLT!ThinkMMA -Distended stomach. Definitely roidingVic Vinegar -It's so naive to think Roy doesn't because he has a gut.
We don't know.
ThinkMMA -If you can fight in the premier league of mixed martial arts and be considered one of the best in the world with that physique, that's awesome!Vic Vinegar -It's so naive to think Roy doesn't because he has a gut.
We don't know.