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BJJ tournaments are a sport, not a fight. Get over it. You don't give the opponent points for a takedown and you dictate which position you play. 
NEVER understood why the guy on top doesn't get takedown points when the other guy pulls guard. lol
Guy on the bottom is putting himself in a disadvantage by jumping on his back.
Bjj is supposed to somewhat resemble a fight and in a fight you usually lose if you are on the bottom unless you can sweep or submit pretty fast.
Most BJJ guys have also become content not learning takedowns because of this guard pulling nonsense.
I like watching 5 minute matches where no one gets it to the ground
Pulling guard leads to too much action too quickly. I want to watch standup matches, not see people's ground game.
That second gif is horrific
Nobody gonna mention the guy in the White gi going all wet noodle leg?
Shit like this turns my stomach more than beheading videos for some reason. 
frederic - BJJ tournaments are a sport, not a fight. Get over it. You don't give the opponent points for a takedown and you dictate which position you play.That about sums it up. It's a sport. It has its rules. It's not a fight, you can't slam him on his head so deal with it. There's a ton of fancy sweeps and moves that would get you smashed in a fight, which is why you don't see it in a fight. I do think the guy I top position should get the points though. Seems like a fair trade
wariornation149 - Most BJJ guys have also become content not learning takedowns because of this guard pulling nonsense.Do you drill immediately passing someone's guard if you drop them? It seems to happen pretty often when someone drops someone else, they end up getting caught in their guard and not being able to finish with GnP. I know the adrenaline must be insane when you do so it might be tough, but just a thought
It's less of a problem than stalling, and the shitty knee reaping rules.
Meh. I've jumped flying guard pull in many MMA fights even a couple UFC fights. Never took damage from it. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.
ColeMillerATT - Meh. I've jumped flying guard pull in many MMA fights even a couple UFC fights. Never took damage from it. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.
You're definitely doing it wrong. Trust me, I know, I know better than anybody, and you're doing it wrong, Cole Miller.
The fuck kinda knees do those guys have? I jumped closed guard plenty of times, never injured anybody. Of course it's not real life, most sweeps or spider guard nonsense would get your face smashed in in real life too. It's part of the rules (well apparently it's illegal for white belts now), if you don't like it go watch judo. Not everybody started BJJ at 16 and is athletic enough to pull off takedowns and throws.
I don't see the issue in pulling guard. if I am going against a wrestler in competition and can't take him down, I'm not going to wait for that motherfucker to take me down. I'm pulling guard and working off my back.
We need Eddie Bravo to weigh in. I know he is an advocate for pulling guard.
martialartsforlife -frederic - BJJ tournaments are a sport, not a fight. Get over it. You don't give the opponent points for a takedown and you dictate which position you play.That about sums it up. It's a sport. It has its rules. It's not a fight, you can't slam him on his head so deal with it. There's a ton of fancy sweeps and moves that would get you smashed in a fight, which is why you don't see it in a fight. I do think the guy I top position should get the points though. Seems like a fair trade
If it's not aiming to be a self defence art, and the rules are there to protect competitors from needless injuries, then why not just ban the jumping closed guard too?
Ronda rouseys mom said it was dumb.
That's the final word
This is what happens when hipsters take to the sport. What was a tactic when tired or when you clinched with a guy who you couldn't takedown and was a better clincher, got turned into a go to move right away and it's now endemic. It's a tatcic of the lazy - it's like putting one hand on the mat with the 3 point rule in MMA
Renzo got pissed at someone in the family for doing it - he started swearing and was visibly pissed.
Things like this go against the spirit of COMBAT sports and Jiu Jitsu. Jiu Jitsu was created by Samurai. There is nothing Samurai about flopping and scooting. It was created by them for the times when they were unarmed or disarmed or in very close quarters. And there is nothing in this spirit that is reflected in butt scooting.
This is what Rickson and many other Gracies talk about when they say that Jiu Jutsu has lost its way.
Argh those gifs make me feel a bit ill..
BJJ competition rules are pulling it farther and farther away from being a combat sport. The same thing happened with Judo. I hesitate to think where it will be in another 20 years of this and the gracie academy.
HULC -Not sure I follow you here. Slamming someone on the head is clearly aimed at inflicting damage. Pulling guard doesn't cause harm, except in those rare incidents.martialartsforlife -frederic - BJJ tournaments are a sport, not a fight. Get over it. You don't give the opponent points for a takedown and you dictate which position you play.That about sums it up. It's a sport. It has its rules. It's not a fight, you can't slam him on his head so deal with it. There's a ton of fancy sweeps and moves that would get you smashed in a fight, which is why you don't see it in a fight. I do think the guy I top position should get the points though. Seems like a fair trade
If it's not aiming to be a self defence art, and the rules are there to protect competitors from needless injuries, then why not just ban the jumping closed guard too?