What is with all this "damage" talk?

Yes another thread. But just to dispel bullshit - Robbie looked way worse off than Carlos at the press conference. This whole "Robbie did more damage" is bullshit.

Carlos also had Robbie rocked in the fight and Robbie is no slouch. He must have been hitting some decent shots to make Robbie look beat up and get rocked.

Robbie is a warrior and hits fairly hard, but he doesn't have true one punch KO power. He has taken all his recent fights into the championship rounds. Let's not pretend he's the Dan Henderson of WW that has skull crushing power.

Robbie inflicted a small amount of damage vs Condit compared to what he did to Rory. Condit wasn't even taken to hospital straight after.

People saying "but the damage" can shove it up their ass. BS.

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Is damage even a scoring criteria? Phone Post 3.0

"Robbie is a warrior and hits fairly hard, but he doesn't have true one punch KO power."

huh?

Incomplete Tent Person - Is damage even a scoring criteria? Phone Post 3.0

The word is not used

"Judges shall evaluate mixed martial arts techniques, such as effective striking, effective grappling, control of the ring/fighting area, effective aggressiveness and defense."

However what is an effective strike if not a damaging strike? What is effective aggressiveness if not a picture of Robbie Lawler?

Needlemover - Yes another thread. But just to dispel bullshit - Robbie looked way worse off than Carlos at the press conference. This whole "Robbie did more damage" is bullshit.

Carlos also had Robbie rocked in the fight and Robbie is no slouch. He must have been hitting some decent shots to make Robbie look beat up and get rocked.

Robbie is a warrior and hits fairly hard, but he doesn't have true one punch KO power. He has taken all his recent fights into the championship rounds. Let's not pretend he's the Dan Henderson of WW that has skull crushing power.

Robbie inflicted a small amount of damage vs Condit compared to what he did to Rory. Condit wasn't even taken to hospital straight after.

People saying "but the damage" can shove it up their ass. BS.

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Robbie put Carlos on his ass and in the fifth had him nearly out on his feet.

Agree with OP. Condit won that fight clear as day. No way you give Robbie more than two rounds. I thought Condit won 4-1. Bullshit decision and now we may never see Condit fight again. The damn guy fights his ass off every single fight and deserved the belt last night. Phone Post 3.0

Incomplete Tent Person - Is damage even a scoring criteria? Phone Post 3.0
Uhhh, it's a fucking fight. Phone Post 3.0

submit1337 -
Incomplete Tent Person - Is damage even a scoring criteria? Phone Post 3.0
Uhhh, it's a fucking fight. Phone Post 3.0
But it's an immeasurable stat Phone Post 3.0

Imagine FMJ fights if he had to engage more to cause more damage? I would jizz in my pants to see a super aggressive Mateeather. Phone Post 3.0

SupesUp -
submit1337 -
Incomplete Tent Person - Is damage even a scoring criteria? Phone Post 3.0
Uhhh, it's a fucking fight. Phone Post 3.0
But it's an immeasurable stat Phone Post 3.0
Yeah seams kind subjective.. But I know it's been brought up before that damage isn't in the scoring criteria for the unified rules.

Just playing devils advocate here.. Phone Post 3.0

5th round had a couple moments where Condit wouldn't go down and was getting tossed about the ring by robbies strikes

never saw that moment the other way around...Robbie slipped a bit on the early "knockdown by COndit"

He's right. Robbie doesn't knock people out with one punch. He has. But he doesn't usually. He didn't one punch KO Hendricks, Brown, Rory either time or anyone in recent memory. Robbie even admits it. He hurts guys and then he swarms them .
This guy has cred but you guys who think that Robbie won or did more damage have none. Phone Post 3.0

Rambo John J -


5th round had a couple moments where Condit wouldn't go down and was getting tossed about the ring by robbies strikes



never saw that moment the other way around...Robbie slipped a bit on the early "knockdown by COndit"

Carlos battered Robbie in the 4th and had him hurt in the fifth also. Robbie just has a great chin as does Carlos. Condit wasn't hurt. Phone Post 3.0

HexRei -
Needlemover - Yes another thread. But just to dispel bullshit - Robbie looked way worse off than Carlos at the press conference. This whole "Robbie did more damage" is bullshit.

Carlos also had Robbie rocked in the fight and Robbie is no slouch. He must have been hitting some decent shots to make Robbie look beat up and get rocked.

Robbie is a warrior and hits fairly hard, but he doesn't have true one punch KO power. He has taken all his recent fights into the championship rounds. Let's not pretend he's the Dan Henderson of WW that has skull crushing power.

Robbie inflicted a small amount of damage vs Condit compared to what he did to Rory. Condit wasn't even taken to hospital straight after.

People saying "but the damage" can shove it up their ass. BS.

End rant. Phone Post 3.0

Robbie put Carlos on his ass and in the fifth had him nearly out on his feet.
Condit put Robbie on his ass had him nearly out on his feet and out struck him like 100 to 1. What's your point? Phone Post 3.0

Hey that's how Hendrix supposedly beat GSP Phone Post 3.0

Robbie' corner told him he had to win the last two rounds. He came out like a house on fire in both rounds but got hit with barrage of strikes in the 4th. This stopped his forward movement, otherwise he would have done the same thing in the forth that he did in the fifth. If those strikes were pitter patter, Lawler would have walked through them but he did not. Condit was throwing the heat, make no mistake. Phone Post 3.0

HexRei -
Needlemover - Yes another thread. But just to dispel bullshit - Robbie looked way worse off than Carlos at the press conference. This whole "Robbie did more damage" is bullshit.

Carlos also had Robbie rocked in the fight and Robbie is no slouch. He must have been hitting some decent shots to make Robbie look beat up and get rocked.

Robbie is a warrior and hits fairly hard, but he doesn't have true one punch KO power. He has taken all his recent fights into the championship rounds. Let's not pretend he's the Dan Henderson of WW that has skull crushing power.

Robbie inflicted a small amount of damage vs Condit compared to what he did to Rory. Condit wasn't even taken to hospital straight after.

People saying "but the damage" can shove it up their ass. BS.

End rant. Phone Post 3.0

Robbie put Carlos on his ass and in the fifth had him nearly out on his feet.
And Condit put him on his ass in the 4th and had him nearly out (probably actually out) on his feet.

You're point? Phone Post 3.0

MCFreaks -
Rambo John J -


5th round had a couple moments where Condit wouldn't go down and was getting tossed about the ring by robbies strikes



never saw that moment the other way around...Robbie slipped a bit on the early "knockdown by COndit"

Carlos battered Robbie in the 4th and had him hurt in the fifth also. Robbie just has a great chin as does Carlos. Condit wasn't hurt. Phone Post 3.0
This.

Condit was exhausted after throwing 500 strikes.

Oh Robbie hit a gassed Condit. Big deal.

Frankly Condit schooled Robbie for the first 4.5 rounds with exception to one knock down.

I think there is a case for scoring all first rounds to Carlos but a knockdown probably made Robbie lucky and gave him the second.

Even robbies corner knew it was a shit decision. Phone Post 3.0

Smith1234 -
lionsoul -


"Robbie is a warrior and hits fairly hard, but he doesn't have true one punch KO power."



huh?

Credibility = shot. Phone Post 3.0
Are you guys stupid?

You can hit fairly hard without having one punch KO power.

Do you know the different between fairly hard and skull crushing fucking hard.

For example I can probably hit you clowns hard enough to give you a black eye, but I wish I could hit you hard enough to put you in a coma. Phone Post 3.0

Incomplete Tent Person -
SupesUp -
submit1337 -
Incomplete Tent Person - Is damage even a scoring criteria? Phone Post 3.0
Uhhh, it's a fucking fight. Phone Post 3.0
But it's an immeasurable stat Phone Post 3.0
Yeah seams kind subjective.. But I know it's been brought up before that damage isn't in the scoring criteria for the unified rules.

Just playing devils advocate here.. Phone Post 3.0
Presumably causing damage is the intended effect of throwing a strike, so a strike would need to be damaging to be considered effective Phone Post 3.0