What type of SNAKE is this?

sorry for the worldstar filter


harriman state park about 50 miles north of NYC either a Timber Rattler or a Copperhead...i really can't tell which didnt notice this thing until it was about 6 feet away from me bc i was messing with my stupid new phone it didnt even rattle....prob was sunning/shedding i came across 3 more of these things within 10 min of this video

 

 

Trust - 


Timber rattler - you can just see the rattle on the tail right before it goes into the weeds. 





doh!



 



 



i saw the rattle...but i forgot that copperheads do not have a rattle



 



 

It is the You Better Fucking Run type!

Eastern diamond back.

Yes, it is posionous - and that is a pretty big one.

Crazy,

we have Northern Pacific Rattle snake up here in British Columbia, pretty scary hiking and hearing those bitches.

tjmitch - Eastern diamond back.

Yes, it is posionous - and that is a pretty big one.
Yeah, we don't have those in NY

Phone Post 3.0

Def a timber rattler Phone Post 3.0

That thing could definitely make your week a bad one. Phone Post 3.0

Horribilis - 
tjmitch - Eastern diamond back.

Yes, it is posionous - and that is a pretty big one.
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i'll jump in (only bc of his bowl cut)

 

 

strike 1: no diamondbacks in harriman

 

strike 2: snakes are technically "venemous", not "poisonous"

 

teehee

fuck ALL snakes. period.

what would you guys estimate the size of that snake is?

 

i was thinking about 5 feet

There are only two rattlesnakes native to NY. The Timber, and the Massasauga.


That's definitely a black phase Timber rattler.

And hard to say on size because you never really had the whole animal in frame but I'd guess in the 3' 1/2 to 4' range.

They can reach the 5' or 6' range, but that one just didn't look it to me. Possible though. And I wasn't the one standing in front of it. But, and not to be a dick, I know from lots of experience that most people tend to greatly overestimate the size of snakes they're looking at/have.

I AM A MOFO - There are only two rattlesnakes native to NY. The Timber, and the Massasauga.


That's definitely a black phase Timber rattler.


do they normally not make any noise?



 



because this and the few others i encountered didnt rattle at all



 



were they in a daze from sunning?

tjmitch - Eastern diamond back.

Yes, it is posionous - and that is a pretty big one.

No, it is not poisonous.

Yes, it is venomous.

In Limbo - 
I AM A MOFO - There are only two rattlesnakes native to NY. The Timber, and the Massasauga.


That's definitely a black phase Timber rattler.


do they normally not make any noise?



 



because this and the few others i encountered didnt rattle at all



 



were they in a daze from sunning?


Rattlers will often not make a peep until you actually disturb them or they are sure you will and feel threatened or cornered.

Likely the snake saw a much larger potential predator in you, and hoped to avoid conflict or detection, thus kept quiet and hoped you left it alone or didn't notice it.


However, don't be fooled and think that a snake that isn't rattling yet will never strike at you either.

Also, the snake never stopped which they generally will if they rattle. That's there "I'm making my stand here" noise. That guy was clearly more interested in getting back to the cover of trees and brush than trying to fight or scare you off.


BTW, VU for not killing the snake on sight as so many of these threads tend to turn out....

Z NEDCMK1 - 


Awesome!



 



Probably the only time you will ever see one, well three, if they were all timbers. Pretty cool.



 



I stepped on one when I was 12, scared the fuck out of me, but didn't strike.



 



To be honest you really have to fuck with them to get bitten.



 



There are a lot of copperheads in Palisades State PArk, easy to come across on the giant stairs hike.



yeah, makes me think twice about wandering off trail, since the other 2-3 were among the tall grass right next to the trail



 



 



 



so let's say i get bit....how long before serious damage kicks in?  anyone know

I AM A MOFO - Also, the snake never stopped which they generally will if they rattle. That's there "I'm making my stand here" noise. That guy was clearly more interested in getting back to the cover of trees and brush than trying to fight or scare you off.


BTW, VU for not killing the snake on sight as so many of these threads tend to turn out....


yeah i dont think i could kill such an animal unless it was on my own property and a danger to family/pets type of thing



 



do people really kill random snakes they encounter on public hiking trails?

where I'm at in jersey

there are lots of timber rattlers

I don't know anyone that's been bit though... or even heard of it happening

My bro in law just moved in to a neighborhood that's pretty famous for having them ALL OVER THE PLACE(google Sanctuary, Marlton, New Jersey).... like a freakin plague

but still... even with kids ridings quads and bikes all thru the woods nobody has been bitten as far as I know