Should I start bjj or best of concentrating on No-gi grappling???
Try both, see what you like. I prefer the Gi, but do no gi once a week as well.
Currently doing no-gi twice a week, already got a gi and was interested in doing bjj but started to question the importance of doing both, was thinking of stepping up my wrestling instead.
Depends on what your thinking of competing in, if your just going to do rolling comps or if your guna do mma then nogi is the way to go but if it's bjj your wanting to do then With a gi is best!
A friend of mine was asking te same question and he borrowed a gi of his sisters bf bit was to fat an looked silly in it and stuck with nogi lol
Most important thing is finding a legit instructor.
Usually, it is easier to see if a bjj instructor is legit (by his belt rank and tracing his lineage), than seeing if a no gi instructor is legit.
If they are both legit, I would say check out both schools and see which one you enjoy more.
Gi training is essential, especially at the early stages of grappling. It slows down the game an makes you use proper technique instead of using strength/athletisim. This has been debated to death but I really believe in it. Honestly though I would rather be the guy that could walk into any gym and no matter if the class is Gi or nogi, and be completely comfortable and confident. If you only do nogi or Gi you have limited your knowledge and growth.
I love nogi and hate the gi.
Find a good judo school instead. BJJ is garbage.
Pros and cons to both. I am a firm believer in the Gi, however I also offer no gi classes. Needless to say that my no gi classes are not that popular and I have seen recently that when the Gi practitioners get thrown into a no gi situation they seem lost without their grips.
When the guys that just have experience with no gi go gi, their technique is usually based on speed and power and they have little pure technique that will allow them to pass guard and escape bad situations.
Both is really the only correct answer, however other factors such as age and athletic ablitiy should also play into your decision.
Halz - Pros and cons to both. I am a firm believer in the Gi, however I also offer no gi classes. Needless to say that my no gi classes are not that popular and I have seen recently that when the Gi practitioners get thrown into a no gi situation they seem lost without their grips.
When the guys that just have experience with no gi go gi, their technique is usually based on speed and power and they have little pure technique that will allow them to pass guard and escape bad situations.
Both is really the only correct answer, however other factors such as age and athletic ablitiy should also play into your decision.
GREAT answer.
I think a lot of people go through an evolution where they start with one exclusively, go to the other exclusively, and then find a happy medium some where.
As Halz said, there are subtle differences to both, so make sure that you keep an open mind and at least spend a little time in and out of the gi.
I think that your fundamentals should be learned with the gi first...The no-gi game can look a bit sloppy comparatively, you really should have a gi foundation first before getting any bad habits that you might be able to get away with in no-gi. Our school doesn't offer the no-gi classes until you have a blue belt.
The way I look at it is that the things you learn in no gi can be used with a gi but not necessarily vice versa.
You probably should do both but I prefer no gi.
you start with a gi. Brazilian JJ is supposed to be a with a gi you can use bjj techniques in no gi grappling
Do a title search for my thread called To GI or not to GI? a lot of good opinions on there. Try to train with the GI as much as possible and do NO GI as well.
Defenestrator - I've never understood the counter argument. Outside of competing in tournaments that don't allow Gi, what's the point, you don't train grip strength, or technique and you certainly don't end up fighting people on the street in spandex.
No, you usually fight someone on the street in a double weaved kimono.
Defenestrator -RNunberg -Defenestrator - I've never understood the counter argument. Outside of competing in tournaments that don't allow Gi, what's the point, you don't train grip strength, or technique and you certainly don't end up fighting people on the street in spandex.
No, you usually fight someone on the street in a double weaved kimono.
Look who's too poor to afford the Gold Weave.
Sorry little man but most fights occur with people wearing shirts and trousers.
Maybe you like to fight in spandex but its not realistic for a self defense scenario.
Nah dude, I only wear a red speedo and a mouth guard.
Same as on the street.
The only people who say that training with a gi is important for development are people who have a financial interest in doing so. Either that, or they have invested tons of money on bjj politics and come to believe them.
The poster above who said he just stuck with doing ng and then naturally started gravitating toward wrestling will be better off doing that than the schmucks who invest ten years and thousands of dollars on rolling around in the jammies, starting from their knees, etc...
I also notice that if you are a grappler of any kind, and you try and go to a bjj school with all the gi rules, it can be very boring and irritating when you really just want to roll hard.
ahh i like to do both but no gi much more so
and as far as real fights go,
go learn boxing/muay thai lol
"Maybe you like to fight in spandex but its not realistic for a self defense scenario."
I know bro. My underhooks/overhooks/collar ties etc simply didnt work anymore because the guy had a jacket on!!
Defenestrator -RNunberg -Defenestrator - I've never understood the counter argument. Outside of competing in tournaments that don't allow Gi, what's the point, you don't train grip strength, or technique and you certainly don't end up fighting people on the street in spandex.
No, you usually fight someone on the street in a double weaved kimono.
Look who's too poor to afford the Gold Weave.
Sorry little man but most fights occur with people wearing shirts and trousers.
Maybe you like to fight in spandex but its not realistic for a self defense scenario.
Most fights occur in a T-shirt, polo or button up shirt.
No gi is a closer simulation to the "streets", UNLESS you are fighting in a sports coat or blazer.