UG?
Freddie Roach said it best in an interview "Anderson Silva". They asked him about Nick Diaz and Roach criticized his footwork. A week after I saw the video Conduit had exploited Nick's footwork.
Andy, Frankie, BJ, Nick, Vitor?
I dont think it needs to be mentioned that we are referring to "MMA striking/boxing technique" and not exclusively to orthodox boxing. Andy has his own unique style that doesnt look like boxing or kickboxing orthodox.
Also Masvidal looked very good against Noons.
Cruz doesnt just use his hands but love his technical style.
Machida is a bit of a one trick pony with that leaping straight left and both Shogun and Jones figured it out but its gotten a lot of others.
Arlovsky had excellent hands before.
Timtek - Freddie Roach said it best in an interview "Anderson Silva". They asked him about Nick Diaz and Roach criticized his footwork. A week after I saw the video Conduit had exploited Nick's footwork.
Condit did well but he didnt exactly dominate Diaz either. But it did illustrate Roach's point for sure. But so far only Condit has been able to have a moderate answer to it so I'd say Diaz's hands have been working out pretty well.
GSP as well.
I would say Anderson Silva. You just never see that guy getting caught standing. He is always centered, always mobile and he can hit first or counter strike whenever he wants to.
"I dont think it needs to be mentioned that we are referring to "MMA striking/boxing technique" and not exclusively to orthodox boxing. Andy has his own unique style that doesnt look like boxing or kickboxing orthodox."
Disagree. His boxing is textbook. His "Muay Thai" is very TKD influenced though
Gokudamus stole my name - "I dont think it needs to be mentioned that we are referring to "MMA striking/boxing technique" and not exclusively to orthodox boxing. Andy has his own unique style that doesnt look like boxing or kickboxing orthodox."
Disagree. His boxing is textbook. His "Muay Thai" is very TKD influenced though
Really? His whole stance and the way he mixes it up with his kicks, knees is a more eccentric or unique style imo. Yes, his jab for one is perhaps textbook boxing and his head movement may be as well. Perhaps we can say that a lot of his stuff is grounded in orthodox technique but he is also creative like Saku (who is grounded in freestyle and catch) he diverts from "orthodoxy" often imo.
Im not a striking expert of course...
BigWilliam - I would say Anderson Silva. You just never see that guy getting caught standing. He is always centered, always mobile and he can hit first or counter strike whenever he wants to.
He is just the best and perfect MMA striker IMO.
Like isnt Frankie more of an orthodox boxer than Andy?
Gil has his own style too.
I think Wand has sorta been underated over time. Rampage's hands are good and remember the turning point in their 2nd fight was when Wand caught him in a boxing exchange.
Also, if i can also ask a question here, who are some of the most successful unorthodox boxers and kickboxers in boxing and kickboxing?
Hey, we cant forget JDS either!
Yves Edwards has great boxing.
James Toney
Wasa-B -Gokudamus stole my name - "I dont think it needs to be mentioned that we are referring to "MMA striking/boxing technique" and not exclusively to orthodox boxing. Andy has his own unique style that doesnt look like boxing or kickboxing orthodox."
Disagree. His boxing is textbook. His "Muay Thai" is very TKD influenced though
Really? His whole stance and the way he mixes it up with his kicks, knees is a more eccentric or unique style imo. Yes, his jab for one is perhaps textbook boxing and his head movement may be as well. Perhaps we can say that a lot of his stuff is grounded in orthodox technique but he is also creative like Saku (who is grounded in freestyle and catch) he diverts from "orthodoxy" often imo.
Im not a striking expert of course...
Of course he is not trying to "box" in MMA. He has to adjust for potential takedowns and kicks. But he parries, slips and rolls with punches, he uses dominant angles, sidesteps and feints.
Wasa-B - Also, if i can also ask a question here, who are some of the most successful unorthodox boxers and kickboxers in boxing and kickboxing?
Boxing: Roy Jones Jr (Andersons idol) Naseem Hamed, Emanuel Augustus, Ali
Muay Thai: Seanchai Sor Kingstar
Clay Morrow - Baroni maybe?
Show a boxing trainer Phil Baroni's technique and let me know what they say...
N.diaz
jds
Edgar
Nate diaz
bj penn
Vitor
Anderson
all are up there
Gokudamus stole my name -Wasa-B - Also, if i can also ask a question here, who are some of the most successful unorthodox boxers and kickboxers in boxing and kickboxing?
Boxing: Roy Jones Jr (Andersons idol) Naseem Hamed, Emanuel Augustus, Ali
Muay Thai: Seanchai Sor Kingstar
Ah, RJJ and Naseem of course, cant believe i couldnt think of them. Yeah, Ali was unorthodox too but all of them had to have the talent to do it too and only 2 of them were the legit best in their divs.
im gonna look up kingstar, i dont think ive ever seen a unorthodox thai fighter.
were any of the K1 or Max guys quite unusual in their styles?
Gokudamus stole my name -Wasa-B -Gokudamus stole my name - "I dont think it needs to be mentioned that we are referring to "MMA striking/boxing technique" and not exclusively to orthodox boxing. Andy has his own unique style that doesnt look like boxing or kickboxing orthodox."
Disagree. His boxing is textbook. His "Muay Thai" is very TKD influenced though
Really? His whole stance and the way he mixes it up with his kicks, knees is a more eccentric or unique style imo. Yes, his jab for one is perhaps textbook boxing and his head movement may be as well. Perhaps we can say that a lot of his stuff is grounded in orthodox technique but he is also creative like Saku (who is grounded in freestyle and catch) he diverts from "orthodoxy" often imo.
Im not a striking expert of course...
Of course he is not trying to "box" in MMA. He has to adjust for potential takedowns and kicks. But he parries, slips and rolls with punches, he uses dominant angles, sidesteps and feints.
I think i can agree with that. I guess that what he does above is rooted in boxing technique but tailored for MMA. I still think he is creative and unique though. Like BJ or Frankie in their stances and the way they attack, defend. That looks more like orthodox boxing to me. Andy is more fluid, dynamic but also more creative and unique imo.