I say PBF by casual MMA fans, and JBJ by the hardcore fans PBF ducks arguably P4p one of the greatest of all-time puncher and JBJ ducks a high level wrestler who couldn't punch his way out of a paper bag at middleweight...
Any casual MMA fans saying talking about the duckgate at the "water cooler" or nobody gives a shit, or more are talking about a geared up old ass cyclist with radioactive balls that sells bracelets... 