I brought up the fight because it’s the truth. I can’t help that just like Khabib couldn’t. Further, because it’s the truth it’s something good to bring up. Funny how that works, isn’t it?
Also worth noting Al gave him one of his hardest fights, and that’s simply because he could actually wrestle defensively. Also the truth.
Terrible thread, feels like bunch of alt accounts just arguing with themselves
And how about to stop all talks about sheep and goats? Most of them are retired, no new fights, nothing changes
This question is similar to asking who is the GOAT at 155. We did a poll in the past year and it looks like BJ and Khabib are tied (like, within a vote or two after 87 votes).
A lot of guys suck in the training room and kill it in the cage. Also a lot of killers in the gym fail in the cage.
That’s why I take training stories with a grain of salt. Too many variables to consider as well. Like was someone at the end of a session, injured, going light, starting on back, etc.
I mean, Khabib has the same amount title defences as the other guys, only he’s the only 29-0 in history and the others have gotten beat up at all stages of their career.
It’s not even really a question if he’s the best LW,
most people polled think he’s the overall GOAT as do many prolific fighters and analysts.
Eh, you def have a point. Training isn’t fighting but the guys who aren’t killers in the gym and go out on the night of the fight and are world beaters are far and few and between.
If anything I see more guys who are killers in training who for whatever reason don’t show up the night of the fight.
You rarely see this with high level wrestlers though. All those matches teach them how to deal with the nerves and compete up to their ability the night of the fight.
Hmm. Mike Whitehead immediately comes to mind. 3x All American and absolute killer in the gym. He didn’t have a bad career by any means, but completely underachieved given both the gym stories and his wrestling creds.
That’s a good example. I didn’t even know he was an all American.
I didn’t say it never happened. I’m just saying when you have 1000 amateur wrestling matches you are probably more likely to compete up to your ability level.
There’s a name I haven’t heard in a LONG time. I remember his run in TUF 2, Matt Hughes had me convinced Mike Whitehead was going to win the whole thing.
Looking at his record… I’m convinced there’s a lot of untold stories there. He lost to Rashad on the show, and then fought at UFC 57 against Keith Jardine (also a loss). He never fought in the UFC again, but went on some crazy runs in the IFL with some name-brand wins (Krystof Soszynski, Mark Kerr, Ruben Villareal, Vernon White, Kevin Randleman, Eddie Sanchez).