Who is the most successful LW ever?

I brought up the fight because it’s the truth. I can’t help that just like Khabib couldn’t. Further, because it’s the truth it’s something good to bring up. Funny how that works, isn’t it?

Also worth noting Al gave him one of his hardest fights, and that’s simply because he could actually wrestle defensively. Also the truth. :wink:

Absolutely

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Terrible thread, feels like bunch of alt accounts just arguing with themselves :joy:
And how about to stop all talks about sheep and goats? Most of them are retired, no new fights, nothing changes

What do I have to do to prove that I’m not jack lol

More often than not frowning is what is indicative of what will happen in a fight.

This question is similar to asking who is the GOAT at 155. We did a poll in the past year and it looks like BJ and Khabib are tied (like, within a vote or two after 87 votes).

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You got me there. Gastelum is no world beater in the gym but he’s a fucking killer on the night of the fight.

http://www.mmadecisions.com/decision/8957/Khabib-Nurmagomedov-vs-Al-Iaquinta

MEDIA SCORES
Dominik Durniat
Polsat Sport 50-43 Nurmagomedov
Nolan King
MMA-Today.com 50-43 Nurmagomedov
MMAJunkie.com 50-43 Nurmagomedov
Chris Nelson
Sherdog.com 50-43 Nurmagomedov
Matthew Wells
FanSided.com 50-43 Nurmagomedov
Brian Knapp
Sherdog.com 50-43 Nurmagomedov
Wesley Riddle
MMASucka.com 50-43 Nurmagomedov
Alexander K. Lee
MMAFighting.com 50-43 Nurmagomedov

MMABrasil.com.br 50-44 Nurmagomedov
Tristen Critchfield
Sherdog.com 50-44 Nurmagomedov
MMAMania.com 50-44 Nurmagomedov
Seán Sheehan
SevereMMA.com 50-44 Nurmagomedov
Rob Tatum
CombatPress.com 50-44 Nurmagomedov
Ryan Frederick
WrestlingObserver.com 50-44 Nurmagomedov
Tim Burke
BloodyElbow.com 50-44 Nurmagomedov
Nick Baldwin
BloodyElbow.com 50-44 Nurmagomedov
Phil Murphy
ESPN 50-44 Nurmagomedov

Drake Riggs
BJPenn.com 50-45 Nurmagomedov
CombatPress.com 50-45 Nurmagomedov

Chris Connor
The Fight City 49-46 Nurmagomedov

If the hardest fight in a guy’s career is a 50-43 domination, he’s the fucking GOAT

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A lot of guys suck in the training room and kill it in the cage. Also a lot of killers in the gym fail in the cage.

That’s why I take training stories with a grain of salt. Too many variables to consider as well. Like was someone at the end of a session, injured, going light, starting on back, etc.

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I appreciate the cut and paste, but I never claimed Khabib didn’t win unanimously.

It was hard because Khabib couldn’t just take him down. If Al was any danger on the feet, that would have been a different fight.

I mean, Khabib has the same amount title defences as the other guys, only he’s the only 29-0 in history and the others have gotten beat up at all stages of their career.

It’s not even really a question if he’s the best LW,

most people polled think he’s the overall GOAT as do many prolific fighters and analysts.

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Eh, you def have a point. Training isn’t fighting but the guys who aren’t killers in the gym and go out on the night of the fight and are world beaters are far and few and between.

If anything I see more guys who are killers in training who for whatever reason don’t show up the night of the fight.

You rarely see this with high level wrestlers though. All those matches teach them how to deal with the nerves and compete up to their ability the night of the fight.

Hmm. Mike Whitehead immediately comes to mind. 3x All American and absolute killer in the gym. He didn’t have a bad career by any means, but completely underachieved given both the gym stories and his wrestling creds.

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If my aunt had a dick she’d be my uncle.

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That’s a good example. I didn’t even know he was an all American.

I didn’t say it never happened. I’m just saying when you have 1000 amateur wrestling matches you are probably more likely to compete up to your ability level.

There’s a name I haven’t heard in a LONG time. I remember his run in TUF 2, Matt Hughes had me convinced Mike Whitehead was going to win the whole thing.

Looking at his record… I’m convinced there’s a lot of untold stories there. He lost to Rashad on the show, and then fought at UFC 57 against Keith Jardine (also a loss). He never fought in the UFC again, but went on some crazy runs in the IFL with some name-brand wins (Krystof Soszynski, Mark Kerr, Ruben Villareal, Vernon White, Kevin Randleman, Eddie Sanchez).

Whitehead also is/was in prison for sexual assault. Might have been a stud athlete but a mental case as well.

No. I’m pretty sure that would just make her a hermaphrodite.

Excuse me, that’s hismaphrodite to you.