Why all the hate on 10th Planet?

The 10th planet fighters are very impressive

personally Id like to see Eddie compete in the lightweight division when it comes back or enter on TUF 4.

He hasnt done MMA yet but after watching the Twister DVD I watched him school MMA guys on the ground so I think he'll do very good.

Eddie is strong from Halfguard the most important position in bjj and MMA IMO!

reasons why I think he'd do well

-Nice half guard sweeps guys wont be able to pin his head with the forearm and drop the hammerfists and elbows plus once he gets the sweep he can be on the top from there who knows.

-Best full Guard in the business He could actually pull guard everytime and guys wont be able to do shit his guard is to MMA ready and to good.

-for stand up you wont be able to sprawl and brawl him because he'll be comfortable in pulling the guard once there your fucked.

-Give him 6 months to a year training with Chuck Liddel and he should be a decent striker or at least be able to close the distance.

-If he is on the top side control lets be honest how you going to stop him he knows all your counters but do you know his.

That is what I personally like about 10th planet jiu-jitsu you just dont know what they are going for because Eddie makes his own shit up and it works plus training without the gi year round must help alot.

I like his fighters to Tait and Chambers who atleast come on here to chat and bullshit sometimes.

Checkuriol is pretty cool to

Your friendly

          Spider Jiu-jitsu man

Eddie seems genuinely innovative in his jiu-jitsu, but I think some people are turned off by what they perceive as aggressive arrogance in some of the 10th planet people. They call it "checking people". I call it tactlessness. But, hey, it's their marketing strategy, and it seems to be working well for them.

LOL yeah, Eddie basically needs no training for MMA and Chuck Liddell of all people can teach him great standup in a short time.

Are you sitting to the left of Eddie right now??

Bravo and MMA should not be mentioned together.

Grappula

It says in his book he geared his system for MMA

that is the reason for all the no gi training.

Question... not a shot at Eddie... but if he doesn't fight MMA how can he tailor his system for it? "I think this would work in MMA!"

Buttscooting aint exactly the best strategy in MMA. Neither is using the halfguard...

^^^

Correct IMO Bravo is way too one dimensional for a MMA system.

Nobody metioned buttscooting I metioned pulling guard which is a good way to stop the sprawl and brawl definetly better then trading blows or getting ktfo.

Halfguard is not a strategy either but if you play a good halfguard your not going to get held there by a forearm pinning your head also everytime your opponnents wants to pass he normally gets caught back in half guard also when escaping mount you will most times get have guard also while escaping the back or sidecontrol you end up in halfguard.

So I see Eddie's halfguard point

"...Your friendly Spider Jiu-jitsu man"

kids class??

Found this article which gives a different perspective

To "Gi" Or Not To "Gi"
A JKD Perspective

By Armando Basulto
P.F.S. Full Instructor
East Coast JKD/FMA
June 11, 1999

In the last decade, the status quo of the martial arts world has been shaken at the foundations by the emergence of the Gracie family and their particular brand of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Though the Brazilian Jiu Jitsu challenge scene had been in existence in Rio for over thirty years, it was the new crop of Ultimate Fighting Challenge and other No Holds Barred competitions that thrust BJJ into the spotlight. All of a sudden, there was a mad rush by martial artists everywhere for good training in groundfighting and grappling. 

Within the Jeet Kune Do Concepts community, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu has been incorporated into an already existing groundfighting curriculum. In the spirit of "absorbing what is useful" and training as realistically as possible, we have taken the techniques, strategies, and submissions of BJJ and downplayed those elements which could be viewed as "limitations" or "ways." To this end, martial artists incorporating BJJ into their JKD program train the greater part of the time without the traditional kimono or "gi," and opt instead to train with just a T-shirt or bareback. Though it remains true that a greater portion of training time should be done without the confines of traditional uniforms, rules, and formalities, there are some benefits to training with the Gi that should not be overlooked. 

Firstly and most obviously, except for those folks lucky enough to live in warm weather year round, T-shirts are not the uniform of the day all year long. In New York City, we wear coats and jackets at least nine months out of the year. If our goal is to train in conditions closest to the most probable scenario, then sparring in just a T- shirt (or no shirt at all) would be most unrealistic. Sparring with the Gi on allows one to not only train chokes that are easily recreated with a jacket or coat, but also opens up a myriad of other sleeve and lapel controls. If possible, training can be done while wearing the coats or jackets themselves. Even though it can get hot and uncomfortable (and zippers and buttons can be hazardous), it is something everyone in search of realistic scenario training should attempt.

Secondly, sparring with the Gi can actually be more difficult than without. Though you will definitely have more techniques and chokes available to you for attacking, you will also have to defend from these same techniques which are now available to your opponent. Now that you have sleeves and lapels to grip, it's possible to work the open or "spider guard" and attempt sweeps and reversals, but your opponent now has sleeves and lapels to grab on you, making every reversal or transition three times harder! As an experiment, spar with a partner with Gi's on for five minutes, then strip off the kimonos and continue for another five minutes. You may be surprised at your increased speed and fluidity. 
 You can take it one step further and spar within the confines of a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Tournament. The rules of the BJJ tournament emphasize proficiency in the skills (i.e. attributes) of groundfighting/ grappling. Though there has been some talk that the tournament competition has actually hurt BJJ's effectiveness and has diluted the art, it is in this environment that the real artistry of the good Jiu Jitsu player can be glimpsed. Points are awarded for obtaining the dominant position (like the MOUNT or TAKING THE BACK), or for sweeping or taking down your opponent. Though, obviously, the end goal is to get your opponent in a submission, thus ending the match, this type of training rewards one for "dominating" the fight either by jockeying for positions or keeping your opponent constantly defending. This will inevitably make one a better grappler & groundfighter. Too often, people with only a "Cliff's Notes" knowledge of Jiu Jitsu waste precious energy struggling (in conflict with JKD's conservation of energy and effort) to get that armlock or choke before they're actually in the proper position. Sometimes it may be more fruitful to simply sweep or reverse someone who has taken you to the ground, and place yourself in a better position to deal with possible multiple opponents rather than getting tunnel vision while concentrating on getting that fancy armlock. 

I am by no means advocating that everyone run out and purchase the $300.00 Brazilian-imported "kimonos" covered with patches and the name emblazoned on the back. The current recommendation to train 80-90 percent of the time without a Gi still holds true. But when you do don the white kimono the other 10 or 20 percent of the time, you should make it as productive as possible and know how to utilize it for maximum attribute development. Though the sin of growing too dependent on the Gi is a much greater crime than lacking the experience of sparring with a Gi, there are many benefits and lessons to be learned by trying to work within the Brazilian Jiu Jitsu tournament scenario and its uniform...the Gi.

eddie really doesnt care to fight mma.

about his guard, does an architect actually have to build the house with his own hands for him to have any knowledge of how a house is built?

and people hate what they are afraid of

i actually dont believe that architects have to do that.  we have one on our team, so i will ask

"about his guard, does an architect actually have to build the house with his own hands for him to have any knowledge of how a house is built?"

yes at least the ones i work with,sometimes it looks good on paper,but wont work in the field.CAN you say change order $$$$$

this is re your statement,no hate on 10th planet and i am a tait fan,i found out who he was after a long conversation,hes cool with me.I come here looking 4 10th planet post keep them up

Here's funny one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfnRhCS5xfs&search=BJJ%20Bravo

it's sad but true

challenging the status quo historically has caused problems.

I dont recall any major problems when people started training no-gi for the early abu dhabi tournaments.

They just took the gi off.

Eddie is not challenging the status quo.

or he just feels like pursuing other avenues in his life now.  he has beaten the best in the world; now, he may try something else.

he also won every fight in the trials and beat gustavo dantes before he got to leo viera.