Why Current PED Testing in MMA is Atrocious

Why Enhanced Testing is Necessary

Athletic commissions do not currently employ the most sophisticated testing available. Tests such as the Carbon Isotope Ratio test, the most effective deterrent of exogenous testosterone usage, is not currently utilized due to its high cost. There is a reason Vitor Belfort did not get caught when he was illegally using testosterone. In 2012, VADA busted boxer Lamont Peterson for illegally using testosterone. When asked point blank if the NSAC would have caught Lemont Peterson, Keith Kizer admitted, “Probably not from the facts that I know.” Peterson’s T/E Ratio was 3.77 to 1, while the NSAC has a 6 to 1 ratio.

Kizer went on to say, “My understanding is that his level was 3.77 to 1… and I don’t know if that was a purposeful attempt to conceal [his use] by keeping it under 4 to 1 or not. That’s a question for someone else and not for me. But regardless, the CIR was able to catch it without the level being high.”

What he is essentially saying is “I don’t know if the fighter was trying to cheat, but if he was, we wouldn’t have caught him.” If that isn’t a complete indictment of your testing, I don’t know what is.

 

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forget CIR, the EPO test is much more important!

Morpheus1976 - forget CIR, the EPO test is much more important!


not sure if more important, but both need to be utilized

Drug testing in general is atrocious, not just MMA.

So how do I pass my drugtest? I just smoked a bowl.

JJLong - Drug testing in general is atrocious, not just MMA.

This.

Sure all those Olympic athletes are natty too with their strict testing procedures.

For the sake of argument, let's stay, hypothetically:

1. Every freaking athete in every sport from HS football (heck Jr HS football) to Women's synchronize swimming, from AAU to the Olympics, table tennis to curling is on some kind of PEDs.

2. Every owner, judge, official, fan, parent, is on some kind of PED (recreational stuff, mainly).

3. Only some people get caught.

4. None of the officials are tested and the loudest ones are probably doing 'cain in their limos.

What is the freaking point of testing, spending all this money to send a testing lab's kids to college.

It's POINTLESS and hypocritical.

I'll stipulate that Dana White is not on anything but cake and beer, and maybe cheese. So he can stand alone and fuss if he wants to.

Hypothetically, of course. :)

 

Team GDP - 
Morpheus1976 - forget CIR, the EPO test is much more important!


not sure if more important, but both need to be utilized


since they dot not test for it, their all on.

Ttt Phone Post 3.0

Morpheus1976 -
Team GDP - 
Morpheus1976 - forget CIR, the EPO test is much more important!


not sure if more important, but both need to be utilized


since they dot not test for it, their all on.
Im not sure what youre saying here Phone Post 3.0

Dana acting as if they're testing is the best is an absolute joke lol.

How about testing the big three: Urine, Blood and Hair?

Out of competition no-notice testing as well. See how many people hold up to that.

The sad thing though is this; The athletes, with the doctors help, are always one step ahead.

Listen to Conte on Rogans Podcast or watch 30 for 30 9.79*....or check out a guy named Lance Armstrong.

They can't afford to test more strictly. Not in that it costs too much money for the testing but most of their guys would pop positive.

Plus you're never going to have people clean when you say "oh you can just get a TUE and it's okay" LOL @ that.

their.....

Morpheus1976 - forget CIR, the EPO test is much more important!

MMA is far more anaerobic than aerobic for EPO to make a difference. Plus there is no need for EPO when you get the same boost from androgens.

What mma needs is random testing.

Not blood tests.
Not EPO tests.
Not hair tests.

Just random pee tests.

TheParrot - 
Morpheus1976 - forget CIR, the EPO test is much more important!

MMA is far more anaerobic than aerobic for EPO to make a difference. Plus there is no need for EPO when you get the same boost from androgens.

What mma needs is random testing.

Not blood tests.
Not EPO tests.
Not hair tests.

Just random pee tests.

no way, you are dead wrong

Team GDP - 
Morpheus1976 -
Team GDP - 
Morpheus1976 - forget CIR, the EPO test is much more important!


not sure if more important, but both need to be utilized


since they dot not test for it, their all on.
Im not sure what youre saying here Phone Post 3.0

the light is either on or off

ttt

TheParrot - 
Morpheus1976 - forget CIR, the EPO test is much more important!


MMA is far more anaerobic than aerobic for EPO to make a difference. Plus there is no need for EPO when you get the same boost from androgens.

What mma needs is random testing.

Not blood tests.
Not EPO tests.
Not hair tests.

Just random pee tests.



OOOOHHHH,BOEM......

Random pee tests would catch a lot more people. It would most likely catch EPO users since a normal dose is out of the body in 3-4 days. Even if they tested it at fights, no one would get busted since they could stop taking it a few days out.

But Olympic/WADA testing doesn't use the Carbon Isotope test unless someone exceeds the 4:1 ratio. They wouldn't have caught Lamont Peterson either.

improve testing and all you do is make ped usage affordable only to the top 5%.  Which would actually be a less fair environment.  It will give the top guys an even bigger advantage.

right now it's affordable to most...

MMALOGIC - 

improve testing and all you do is make ped usage affordable only to the top 5%.  Which would actually be a less fair environment.  It will give the top guys an even bigger advantage.

right now it's affordable to most...


thing is if you making testing state of the art very few could afford it. even at the top levels fighters aren't making very mcuh