Why is Cain so entitled to be...

The number one contender? He never really was and truthfully we all know he's far from it. Overeem clearly is and will always be Juniors biggest threat. A frickin K-1 superhuman champ and your telling me Cain is a bigger threat? I get that he can go through a guy who has less than ten mma bouts and get a title shot again I guess... But if ubereem is ready in time how can one claim that a man who was gone in 60 seconds is the contender? Phone Post

Because Overeem is a proven cheater. Phone Post

minotauro11 - Because Overeem is a proven cheater. Phone Post

Is he really? Because he's never been caught cheating in any competition based testing nor during competition. And he has never tested for banned substances either.. Phone Post

Yeah, Cain got clocked by JDS, Remember when Vitor got ko'd by Silva, then in vitor's next fight, he fought Akiyama and beat him in devastating fashion. Later in the post fight press conference, one of the reporters asked Dana if vitor should get a rematch with Silva, Dana's response was no, he doesn't because of the way he lost to silva. Now all of sudden Cain lost in a similar fashion, and he beat bigfoot of all people, and he is deserving of a title shot? Doesn't make sense.

minotauro11 - Because Overeem is a proven cheater. Phone Post


Any problems with Chael Sonnen getting a title shot? Or Vitor Belfort? Or Sean Sherk?

Cain would beat overeem - I still don't think overeem has faced a legit top hw

Don't say Brock cos he was obviously affected by the illness and not the same fighter Phone Post

I'd prefer JDS vs Reem, but Cain > Reem.

JDS will fuck both side ways. I'm just tired of all the rematches clogging up the divisions. Phone Post

Cause heavyweight isn't the strongest division and Cain probably beats the rest of the top 5-10 contenders nine times out of ten Phone Post

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FedorEmilioEstevez - Cain would beat overeem - I still don't think overeem has faced a legit top hw <br><br>Don't say Brock cos he was obviously affected by the illness and not the same fighter <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


Werdum

True, but what a terrible gameplan from Werdum. Phone Post

FedorEmilioEstevez - Cain would beat overeem - I still don't think overeem has faced a legit top hw

Don't say Brock cos he was obviously affected by the illness and not the same fighter Phone Post

LOL, Cain would beat Overeem, LOL! Phone Post

BlueWrapper - I'd prefer JDS vs Reem, but Cain > Reem.

JDS will fuck both side ways. I'm just tired of all the rematches clogging up the divisions. Phone Post

This. Phone Post

I honestly think Cain will make a very good gatekeeper for that division. I'm not trying to be a dick I just see him as being the best mid-tier guy. Phone Post

I know what you're saying.

Look at a guy like Shogun. Fights his heart out against Hendo, gives it his all, and ends up losing the decision. Now Hendo gets to go on and fight Jones, after a fight which just as easily could have been scores a draw, and while Shogun gets another L on his record.

Now you go onto his next fight. They promise him his fight will determine the number one contender. Like a week before the fight the UFC tells him he may not even get the shot. Once again has a war, fights his heart out against Vera and finishes him, only to lose his title shot to a guy he already ko'd. And afterwards, says "no problem", and wishes Lyoto luck.

Cain gets ko'd in a minute on the first ever Fox card, beats a fringe top 10 coming off a loss, and acts like JDS has to fight him and owes him something.

GTFO.

I do feel that Cain skipped the line. I think he's an excellent fighter but it was just two fights ago he lost convincingly to JDS and guys like Werdum have won two in a row.

Shurgs the simplest answer  for why he feels entiled to it may be because Dana told him he was getting it. He just wants what he was told by the president of the company he had coming. I say that as someone who likes an Overeem vs. JDS matchup more, but if you really want to know what's going on in Cain's mind, it's probably that.

 

Chhem - Yeah, Cain got clocked by JDS, Remember when Vitor got ko'd by Silva, then in vitor's next fight, he fought Akiyama and beat him in devastating fashion. Later in the post fight press conference, one of the reporters asked Dana if vitor should get a rematch with Silva, Dana's response was no, he doesn't because of the way he lost to silva. Now all of sudden Cain lost in a similar fashion, and he beat bigfoot of all people, and he is deserving of a title shot? Doesn't make sense.

To be Fair, Cain was the champ..Vitor wasn't Phone Post

I've said this in another thread but I just don't understand why people are mad about seeing two top heavies go at it. I also want to see jds/reem. But reem is on the shelf.

Do people not understand that after two people fight that the winners career does not end? If jds takes out Cain he can still fight the reem after that.

So maybe just enjoy this fight... Then enjoy the next one? Phone Post