43-2 with 40 KO's. He hasn't lost in 8 years. Both his loss's are very controversial.
In his first loss, he was dominating Chris Byrd when Vitali tore his rotator cuff and stopped the fight. He was WAAY ahead on judges scorecards.
Against Lewis, he was ahead 4 rounds to 2, when the fight was stopped against his will due to a cut above his eye that Lennox landed with a grazing punch.
Now..people will say.... the heavyweight division is crap nowadays..is it? Or have the Klitschko brothers just dismantled every challenger so easy that no one has the ability to make a name for themselves?
Would Vitali really lose to Ali? Foreman? How would they beat him?
It was his brother that did the chick from Heroes, right?
Therefore his brother is the real GOAT
sanguine cynic - 43-2 with 40 KO's. He hasn't lost in 8 years. Both his loss's are very controversial.
In his first loss, he was dominating Chris Byrd when Vitali tore his rotator cuff and stopped the fight. He was WAAY ahead on judges scorecards.
Against Lewis, he was ahead 4 rounds to 2, when the fight was stopped against his will due to a cut above his eye that Lennox landed with a grazing punch.
Now..people will say.... the heavyweight division is crap nowadays..is it? Or have the Klitschko brothers just dismantled every challenger so easy that no one has the ability to make a name for themselves?
Would Vitali really lose to Ali? Foreman? How would they beat him?
"With a grazing punch"
Although Lennox may have been behind a round or two, it was a competitive fight, And a legit punched that caused the cut that eventually ended the fight.
What's so controversial about it? 
Punch*^ sorry can't edit on iPhone.
If Vitali was American...he would be very much in the same vein as those other guys...
the fact that he is from the Ukraine and fights mostly in Europe is why we don't hear much about him.
But no one has been as dominant a champion as him in the last half of the century..
JTShodog -sanguine cynic - 43-2 with 40 KO's. He hasn't lost in 8 years. Both his loss's are very controversial."With a grazing punch"<br><br>Although Lennox may have been behind a round or two, it was a competitive fight, And a legit punched that caused the cut that eventually ended the fight.<br><br>What's so controversial about it? <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
In his first loss, he was dominating Chris Byrd when Vitali tore his rotator cuff and stopped the fight. He was WAAY ahead on judges scorecards.
Against Lewis, he was ahead 4 rounds to 2, when the fight was stopped against his will due to a cut above his eye that Lennox landed with a grazing punch.
Now..people will say.... the heavyweight division is crap nowadays..is it? Or have the Klitschko brothers just dismantled every challenger so easy that no one has the ability to make a name for themselves?
Would Vitali really lose to Ali? Foreman? How would they beat him?
Vitali wanted to keep fighting.
Larry Holmes is in a similar situation. Had a great undefeated streak but never was thought of has great since he followed the Ali/Frazier/Foreman era of boxing.
As soon as he fights his brother, I'll determine who is the best fighter of this era of boxing. Then, I'll decide GOAT. Till that happens, he's just a dude who's helping lower boxing's relevance.
FingerorMoon -
It was his brother that did the chick from Heroes, right?
Therefore his brother is the real GOAT
Hayden pantierre yeah,, wladimir is the real goat !
Lol at being the GOAT when the biggest name on your record is a past it Shannon Briggs and you lost to the two only other relevant guys you fought.
Is this a serious question?
Lewis stopped him with a punch that opened up a cut that the doctor's ruled too dangerous for him to continue.
Not controversial. Not "grazing"./
The heavyweight division is incredibly week compared to how it used be right? thats probly why
Incredible heavyweight- being European was a major obstacle for him and his legacy.
I don't know about Ali being ranked outside the top 10. That's quite a stretch. I don't think that he is the greatest ever but he is certainly top 10.
It's because Lewis pussied out and retired before offering him a rematch.
Its too bad he doesn't have any big name opponents to face. That isn't his fault, of course, but people always want to know "who he beat". Might he have beaten Ali? Probably... but since he wasn't around in that era we won't know. He is a victim of circumstance. Kinda like Rocky Marciano. Dude never lost a fight in his career. Arguably should be considered the greatest boxer to ever live. But because he never faced elite boxers due to their not existing when he was on top, he isn't considered on most peoples top 10. Same thing might happen with the klitschko brothers.
p.s. I don't know as much about boxing as I'd like to, so I might have some facts mixed up in the above paragraph. For example, I am pretty sure that Marciano didn't duck anybody - that isn't the reason he isn't on peoples top 10 list. Its just that top competition didn't exist when he was boxing. Clearly, that isn't his fault. But it does effect how people view his legacy.
From wikipedia:
John Durant author of The Heavyweight Champions wrote in 1971 (pg. 123) “Critics do not rate Rocky with the great ones, like Jeffries, Johnson, Dempsey, Tunney, and Louis. He never faced top-notch fighters like they did. It was not Rocky’s fault, of course, that there was not much talent when he was fighting. He fought them all and that is what a champion is supposed to do.”
I wouldn't be surprised if something similar to this is said about Klitschko when he's done boxing.
Furthermore, every discussion on P4P rankings in boxing should (and usually do) involve the following clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWvDao-MpOk
mrmetoo - What is his biggest win? <br>What is Ali's biggest win? <br>What is sugar rays biggest win? <br><br><br>And who on that list has multiple wins considered better than klitchkos biggest? <img src="/images/phone/droid.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
You are kind of missing my point..which is how can Klitschko fight a big name fighter when him and his brother dominate everyone ?
If you can't be a champion because there are always two fighters better than you how can you become a big NAME fighter..and that's just what it is..a big NAME...not speaking of talent..
Now I'm not an expert, but are the fighters of 2000 heavyweights demonstrably less talented than those of the 70's? And if so..what makes you say so?
Ali's biggest wins are Joe Frazier and George Foreman...Joe Frazier who weighed as little as 197 pounds at 5'11 for some of his fights and "big" George Foreman who was 227 pounds in his prime.
Boxing was more popular back then, so these people take on mythic status, but if you just look at the size of the fighters, they were tiny compared to today's fighters.
mrmetoo - What is his biggest win?i can't really decipher if your serious or not. would you be willing to expound on this a little more?
What is Ali's biggest win?
What is sugar rays biggest win?
And who on that list has multiple wins considered better than klitchkos biggest?
FingerorMoon -
It was his brother that did the chick from Heroes, right?
Therefore his brother is the real GOAT
So true.