Why the Obsession with Finishing Fights?

It's easy to say "try to finish." Point out where these guys are missing the obvious opportunity to finish. Phone Post

Whats the obsession with homeruns,touchdown passes,or three pointers?

i just want to watch exciting fights. i dont complain about fights going to decisions, but i think thats because i'm rarely bored watching mma because i understand all the aspects of the game. i think the majority of people who complain about decisions and get really upset about it are fairly uneducated to the whole sport. 

Bobby Lupo -  When you get to a certain level there is parity in the sport. Top guys are generally hard to finish. I'd rather watch 2 top 5 guys go to the scorecards than a gross mismatch that produces a finish for the sake of a finish.

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Eh, wrong.

Some guys, have gotten to the top playing it safe.

I like see ultimate wrestleboxers circle around a cage 60 times grabbing a point for a jab here and a point for a leg kick there and shooting for a takedown with 20 seconds left to try to steal the round.

redundant formulas FTW!

 i wanna see all fights, mismatches or  great competitive fights between the number 1 and number 2 ranked guy. i just love mma and glad im able to watch a dude fight another dude. 

Come on, Lupes. You said on the "Heavies finish 3x more fights than midgets" thread that--

"...for pure excitement, HWs are the gold standard. The decision divisions 155 and below occasionally produce a great fight, but too much point sparring"

All gold chanes aside, it sounds like you answered that post with this thread.

Bobby Lupo -  MMA is a sport, not some kind of fight to the death, underground bullshit from a bad movie. Why can't MMA fans treat it like a proper sport and enjoy it for what it is, regardless of a decision or stoppage?

Every goal doesn't have to be a bicycle kick. Every at bat doesn't have to be a home run or strikeout. Every pass doesn't have to be a 90 yard bomb. Every boxing match doesn't have to look like Tyson vs a can. 

We accept that special things don't happen all the time in sports, yet dummies on here are always screaming for a finish like they were Caesar giving the thumbs down. 

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really? like you don't get it??


there's no debate afterwards, whereas a decision can be argued by knuckleheads (like me ) on the internet...why is a KO a bigger deal in boxing? why is a pin a bigger deal in wrestling? because it's easier to fight for points than for the finish, that's why....and a finish is absolute.

BshMstr - 
Bobby Lupo -  MMA is a sport, not some kind of fight to the death, underground bullshit from a bad movie. Why can't MMA fans treat it like a proper sport and enjoy it for what it is, regardless of a decision or stoppage?

Every goal doesn't have to be a bicycle kick. Every at bat doesn't have to be a home run or strikeout. Every pass doesn't have to be a 90 yard bomb. Every boxing match doesn't have to look like Tyson vs a can. 

We accept that special things don't happen all the time in sports, yet dummies on here are always screaming for a finish like they were Caesar giving the thumbs down. 





really? like you don't get it??


there's no debate afterwards, whereas a decision can be argued by knuckleheads (like me ) on the internet...why is a KO a bigger deal in boxing? why is a pin a bigger deal in wrestling? because it's easier to fight for points than for the finish, that's why....and a finish is absolute.


that really is the only legitimate reason to prefer a finish,but sometimes the entertainment factor of seeing a fight going the distance is better.It allows more time to test cardio,more time to adjust to gameplans, more time to fight adversity and show heart. Personally im not entertained by a 45 second first round ko the way i am by a back and forth decision fight. I think its an A.D.D mentality that american fans have when it comes to fighting.

The reality is, the fanbase isnt that much different then it was in 1993 and everyone wants to see finishes.This was part of the reason why Pride was so huge, you could put stars in with cans and get finishes with regularity,this is a formula for success.

Again, i appreciate strategy,i appreciate guys who are good enough to not get finished like Fitch and Shields.It shows their heart and fighting spirit. I also like how it exposes fighters like BJ Penn who are heavy hitters for about 2 rounds but dont have the cardio to swim in deepwater,cardio is part of fighting and im ok with guys with bad cardio being exposed.

Finishing shows the killer instinct that fight fans love about combat sports. Without a finish some fights look like a glorified sparring match.

So where are guys missing obvious opportunities to finish? I see people whine about finishes all the time but they could not point out any instance in a fight where a finish was there to be taken. Phone Post

was Berry really lightyears better 5 seconds before Kongo proved that he was lightyears better? Did we truly find out who the better fighter was?

Berry put entertaining fans first and look what happened

TTT.

Magnum TA - So where are guys missing obvious opportunities to finish? I see people whine about finishes all the time but they could not point out any instance in a fight where a finish was there to be taken. <img src="/images/phone/post_tag.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


I agree; its like baseball fans demanding a homerun - easy to say, not so easy to do when you're out there as opposed to watching the fight.

Like others have pointed out, finishing a fight gets a lot harder when fighters don't have huge holes in their game. Blowouts in any sport, including MMA, come from mismatches.

Bobby Lupo -  MMA is a sport, not some kind of fight to the death, underground bullshit from a bad movie. Why can't MMA fans treat it like a proper sport and enjoy it for what it is, regardless of a decision or stoppage?

Every goal doesn't have to be a bicycle kick. Every at bat doesn't have to be a home run or strikeout. Every pass doesn't have to be a 90 yard bomb. Every boxing match doesn't have to look like Tyson vs a can. 

We accept that special things don't happen all the time in sports, yet dummies on here are always screaming for a finish like they were Caesar giving the thumbs down. 


Preach on, my brother! Phone Post

ILoveWatchingJonesBoneShogun - was Berry really lightyears better 5 seconds before Kongo proved that he was lightyears better? Did we truly find out who the better fighter was?



Berry put entertaining fans first and look what happened
Look what happened?  Fans were entertained?  I definitely was.

 

UKTT's Chambermaid - 
ILoveWatchingJonesBoneShogun - was Berry really lightyears better 5 seconds before Kongo proved that he was lightyears better? Did we truly find out who the better fighter was?

Berry put entertaining fans first and look what happened
Look what happened?  Fans were entertained?  I definitely was.
 


That fight def made me respect both of those fighters a lot more.
i always prefer the finish jsut because you have that sense of closure.
much fewer disputed/controversial finishes than decisions.

I think they should fight until there is a winner, but I also think the NFL should play until there is a winner and any other sport for that matter. If forced to continue long enough, someone will quit/give up, always.

For me alot of the recent decisions, and especially from the lower weight classes, I wish were 5 rounders. There has been some very entertaining fights that went to decision lately.

On the other hand there has been some lackluster or filler fights. But I was still entertained. No matter if a guy walls and stalls or lay and prays his opponent is there to stop that. You can't blame GSP for being better than everyone he faces. Blame the opposition. Phone Post

georgejonesjr - 
Magnum TA - So where are guys missing obvious opportunities to finish? I see people whine about finishes all the time but they could not point out any instance in a fight where a finish was there to be taken. <img src="/images/phone/post_tag.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


I agree; its like baseball fans demanding a homerun - easy to say, not so easy to do when you're out there as opposed to watching the fight.

Like others have pointed out, finishing a fight gets a lot harder when fighters don't have huge holes in their game. Blowouts in any sport, including MMA, come from mismatches.


Untrue.

Was Franklin / Anderson a mismatch? No.
Look what happened both times.

BJ / Hughes (1st) was tipped in Hughes Favor,
what happened?

Guys like you annoy me, you go on about how even fights are matched so there is more decisions. It isn't how even the skill is, its the risks each fighter are willing to take to win the fight. Guys play it safe, period.

Look @ Fitch for instance,
Mike Pierce takes Fitch after a close decision over Brock Larson, and only 1 prior UFC fight, Fitch was 10 - 1 in the UFC at the time, and Fitch didn't do shit.