Thanks Bro!
easykash - if the history of the earth was scaled to fit into a 24 hour day, it would go like this:
12 am the earth is formed
4 am life begins
8 pm creatures leave the ocean
2 minutes before midnight, humans arrive.
what is the relevance of all this?
every three minutes, a civilization-changing asteroid hits the earth.
Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
To think that history wouldn't repeat itself, as it always has, would be ignorant.
This society as a whole is doing a nose dive and there are people out there trying to tell us that but mainstream media, and the government, are to powerful for that information to ever go public. At the rate we are using the earth's resources it won't be long before a "dark age" occurs. Some would argue that it has already begun. We are using the earths resources faster than the earth can replenish them and eventually we won't have anything left.
This society will enter a dark age. It could happen at ANY instant too. Our government has the power to send us into a dark age with the flick of a switch. Don't believe me? Look up HAARP. And don't stop reading at the HAARP website, dig a little deeper.
Our military has the power to play God, should they choose to do so. And if they do, even God can't help us. 
Snappy Whistleteeth -Ok buddy. Keep playing and watching your apocalypse video games and movies. I hear Starbucks is hiring.SoccerkickrevivaL -The dark ages were from the 6th to the 13th century dickhead. although i was exaggerating a bit for effect, the point is, with total loss of the grid, the whole place spins out of control. Do you have an outhouse? Kerosene lanterns? Wood burning stove? Horse and buggy? A huge garden? A well? How are you going to communicate? How effective will law enforcement be?Snappy Whistleteeth - The entire grid is basically unprotected to a massive solar event. If we received the same blast that hit the states in the late 1800's, instead of frying telegraph lines, it would fry the whole grid which would put us back in the 1500's in quick fashion.1500's?
There is an easy however costly fix but as I understand it, the grid is owned by different entities throughout the country and it would be up to them to retrofit their equipment. Again, it's costly and there isn't anyone that can make them do it. Maybe some have but the gist I got was that its not happening.
Also we're overdue for an event of this nature.
Sleep tight...
You're dumb as shit.
So, 1500s,1600's, whatever, it would be brutal and savage.
Now go fuck yourself.
SoccerkickrevivaL -If a solar flare hit the earth like it did 100 years ago, we would be completely fucked. Banks, sewage stations, communication, everything. Right back to a time that few are ready for. Believe what you want but that's a fact.Snappy Whistleteeth -Ok buddy. Keep playing and watching your apocalypse video games and movies. I hear Starbucks is hiring.SoccerkickrevivaL -The dark ages were from the 6th to the 13th century dickhead. although i was exaggerating a bit for effect, the point is, with total loss of the grid, the whole place spins out of control. Do you have an outhouse? Kerosene lanterns? Wood burning stove? Horse and buggy? A huge garden? A well? How are you going to communicate? How effective will law enforcement be?Snappy Whistleteeth - The entire grid is basically unprotected to a massive solar event. If we received the same blast that hit the states in the late 1800's, instead of frying telegraph lines, it would fry the whole grid which would put us back in the 1500's in quick fashion.1500's?
There is an easy however costly fix but as I understand it, the grid is owned by different entities throughout the country and it would be up to them to retrofit their equipment. Again, it's costly and there isn't anyone that can make them do it. Maybe some have but the gist I got was that its not happening.
Also we're overdue for an event of this nature.
Sleep tight...
You're dumb as shit.
So, 1500s,1600's, whatever, it would be brutal and savage.
Now go fuck yourself.
Also, it doesn't surprise me that you know Starbucks is hiring.
Meanwhile, I'm going on my 16th year at the IT company I founded.
Have a good evening.
Snappy Whistleteeth -SoccerkickrevivaL -If a solar flare hit the earth like it did 100 years ago, we would be completely fucked. Banks, sewage stations, communication, everything. Right back to a time that few are ready for. Believe what you want but that's a fact.Snappy Whistleteeth -Ok buddy. Keep playing and watching your apocalypse video games and movies. I hear Starbucks is hiring.SoccerkickrevivaL -The dark ages were from the 6th to the 13th century dickhead. although i was exaggerating a bit for effect, the point is, with total loss of the grid, the whole place spins out of control. Do you have an outhouse? Kerosene lanterns? Wood burning stove? Horse and buggy? A huge garden? A well? How are you going to communicate? How effective will law enforcement be?Snappy Whistleteeth - The entire grid is basically unprotected to a massive solar event. If we received the same blast that hit the states in the late 1800's, instead of frying telegraph lines, it would fry the whole grid which would put us back in the 1500's in quick fashion.1500's?
There is an easy however costly fix but as I understand it, the grid is owned by different entities throughout the country and it would be up to them to retrofit their equipment. Again, it's costly and there isn't anyone that can make them do it. Maybe some have but the gist I got was that its not happening.
Also we're overdue for an event of this nature.
Sleep tight...
You're dumb as shit.
So, 1500s,1600's, whatever, it would be brutal and savage.
Now go fuck yourself.
Also, it doesn't surprise me that you know Starbucks is hiring.
Meanwhile, I'm going on my 16th year at the IT company I founded.
Have a good evening.
Yay!
I'm not going to call many one any names or anything, but I do think some people seriously overestimate the damage of EMPs, solar flares, and other technology disabling methods. I understand how one could do this with very little knowledge of electrical theory, but please understand how unlikely it is for any event to do any widespread damage to electrical systems. Just as important to note is the fact that any damage can obviously be repaired, and the most critical systems are not only protected, those protections are redundant.
It appears some people are big fans of that technically hilarious show, Revolution.
White347LX - I'm not going to call many one any names or anything, but I do think some people seriously overestimate the damage of EMPs, solar flares, and other technology disabling methods. I understand how one could do this with very little knowledge of electrical theory, but please understand how unlikely it is for any event to do any widespread damage to electrical systems. Just as important to note is the fact that any damage can obviously be repaired, and the most critical systems are not only protected, those protections are redundant.
It appears some people are big fans of that technically hilarious show, Revolution.
Believe what you want but the grid is not protected against a large solar event. They started in 2010 kicking around an idea called the Solar Shield but I have not heard anything else about it. And sure, things can be rebuilt but if there is widespread failure like is predicted would happen, then how long will it take? 6 months? A year? Imagine life without power for 6 months. No, it wouldn't be the dark ages but it would be chaos, that I can assure you. Look up the New York power outage of 1965. Shit started getting real ugly and that was only 8 or 9 hours of total power loss. Sure, there are backup generators and the like but if the power is out long enough, that stuff goes away too.
Will it happen? Hopefully not but most scientists are in agreement that if we get hit by a solar event of the magnitude that hit the earth in 1859, we would be fucked. I am not making this stuff up.
I don't watch Revolution but I do read a lot and watch mostly educational programs with science and history being my favorites. I'm not a doomsdayer I've just seen and read about this many times over the years.
As for name calling...I apologize, I was called dumb as shit and you agreed so I lumped you two together.
Yeah, next time the OG crashes
"I don't watch Revolution but I do read a lot and watch mostly educational programs with science and history being my favorites. I'm not a doomsdayer I've just seen and read about this many times over the years. "
Start reading about basic electrical theory. You'll quickly understand how simple electrical grids really are. Most of the controls can be operated manually. I really can't stress enough how the "OMGEMP!" crowd is almost identical to the Y2K crowd.
It never hurts to be prepared though, so I'm not saying anyone shouldn't have supplies for 30 days and multiple evac plans. Just understand that your electricity is more likely to be browned out in times of high demand (hot weather, HVAC systems taxing grid) than for any other reason and it won't be for more than 48 hours. Extreme weather physically damaging t&d systems and limiting access to areas in need of repair is the only way we'll see extended outages.
No offense but I have more faith in what guys like Dr. Michio Kaku have to say over some dude from the Internets.
That's cool. It never hurts to be prepared. I'll be happy to say, "I told you so!" after some big solar flare Y2Ks the world, but you'll be one happy mofo if a true natural disaster Katrinas your ass and you're not scrambling for food and water after a few days of isolation.
Snappy Whistleteeth - No offense but I have more faith in what guys like Dr. Michio Kaku have to say over some dude from the Internets.
Not saying he's wrong, but he tends to always present the worst case scenario as if it's a good possibility even though it's almost impossible.
That's exactly how he handled Fukushima. Every news channel used him and his credentials to scare the hell out of people for ratings.
White347LX - That's cool. It never hurts to be prepared. I'll be happy to say, "I told you so!" after some big solar flare Y2Ks the world, but you'll be one happy mofo if a true natural disaster Katrinas your ass and you're not scrambling for food and water after a few days of isolation.As for Y2K, the amount of hours that were spent correcting old code was staggering. That's the reason it was basically a non event, because we were prepared. I had a couple of guys that were contracted out for hundreds of hours with various companies such as Marriott and Home Shopping channel so I find it funny when people say it was a joke.
And we did have a few major issues with sensitive military equipment that wasn't made public until some time later.
White347LX - That's exactly how he handled Fukushima. Every news channel used him and his credentials to scare the hell out of people for ratings.
And he was the one going on about the BP oil spill in The Gulf a few years back about how the pressure of the ocean could collapse the ocean floor and cause major tidal waves.
I think (I could be wrong) that he also brought up how if there is a hurricane during the oil leak, it could create a fire hurricane.
Entertaining stuff though.
Jack Carter -I don't want to make this just about Kaku, there are many, many scientist that feel the same way. I do agree with you that he presents the worst case scenario but I've never taken it as scare tactics or whatever, just what would happen under the right circumstances. Apparently I'm in the minority.White347LX - That's exactly how he handled Fukushima. Every news channel used him and his credentials to scare the hell out of people for ratings.
And he was the one going on about the BP oil spill in The Gulf a few years back about how the pressure of the ocean could collapse the ocean floor and cause major tidal waves.
I think (I could be wrong) that he also brought up how if there is a hurricane during the oil leak, it could create a fire hurricane.
Entertaining stuff though.
I personally believe that if we experience a huge solar event, it would fuck the shit out us. That doesn't mean that I think it will happen, it just means that I think it could.
Also, Kaku and other scientists think that the entire grid can be protected from such an event for about 350 million. They went to congress with their proposal and were denied. Even if the chances are small, its still a real possibility that would have consequences too great to ignore. Why can't we cut off Egypt or something and make the necessary fixes with that money and have this not even be an issue? 350m is a drop in the bucket and it just doesn't make sense to me to not do what we can to protect critical infrastructure.
We track asteroids and the chances of one of those causing a problem is very, very low but we take the necessary steps because the possible outcome is too severe not to do anything. (I hope all of this coherent, it's been a looooong day)
Oh well, life goes on....for now anyway. :)
I quoted you Jack but the response wasn't directed entirely at your post, I just got carried away a bit.
You're right about Kaku not actually presenting it to produce fear. Talking about these kinds of things while is entertaining and maybe freightening for us, is all science. He loves talking about it like we couldn't relate to. It's just him explaining something highly interesting.
Jack Carter -Very well said Jack. My thoughts are that if shit goes down, the results will be closer to what Kaku and his contemporaries predict than your average joe blow.
You're right about Kaku not actually presenting it to produce fear. Talking about these kinds of things while is entertaining and maybe freightening for us, is all science. He loves talking about it like we couldn't relate to. It's just him explaining something highly interesting.