women are happier without a husband or children

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/may/25/women-happier-without-children-or-a-spouse-happiness-expert

 

We may have suspected it already, but now the science backs it up: unmarried and childless women are the happiest subgroup in the population. And they are more likely to live longer than their married and child-rearing peers, according to a leading expert in happiness.

Speaking at the Hay festival on Saturday, Paul Dolan, a professor of behavioural science at the London School of Economics, said the latest evidence showed that the traditional markers used to measure success did not correlate with happiness – particularly marriage and raising children.

"Married people are happier than other population subgroups, but only when their spouse is in the room when they're asked how happy they are. When the spouse is not present: fucking miserable," he said.

"We do have some good longitudinal data following the same people over time, but I am going to do a massive disservice to that science and just say: if you're a man, you should probably get married; if you're a woman, don't bother."

Men benefited from marriage because they "calmed down", he said. "You take less risks, you earn more money at work, and you live a little longer. She, on the other hand, has to put up with that, and dies sooner than if she never married. The healthiest and happiest population subgroup are women who never married or had children," he said.

Dolan's latest book, Happy Ever After, cites evidence from the American Time Use Survey (ATUS), which compared levels of pleasure and misery in unmarried, married, divorced, separated and widowed individuals. The study found that levels of happiness reported by those who were married was higher than the unmarried, but only when their spouse was in the room. Unmarried individuals reported lower levels of misery than married individuals who were asked when their spouse was not present.

Other studies have measured some financial and health benefits in being married for both men and women on average, which Dolan said could be attributed to higher incomes and emotional support, allowing married people to take risks and seek medical help.

However, Dolan said men showed more health benefits from tying the knot, as they took fewer risks. Women's health was mostly unaffected by marriage, with middle-aged married women even being at higher risk of physical and mental conditions than their single counterparts.

Despite the benefits of a single, childless lifestyle for women, Dolan said that the existing narrative that marriage and children were signs of success meant that the stigma could lead some single women to feel unhappy.

"You see a single woman of 40, who has never had children – 'Bless, that's a shame, isn't it? Maybe one day you'll meet the right guy and that'll change.' No, maybe she'll meet the wrong guy and that'll change. Maybe she'll meet a guy who makes her less happy and healthy, and die sooner."

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What a shock, a far left newspaper promoting the idea that native English women should never have kids so they can be replaced by foreigners.

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Sandy Pantz - What a shock, a far left newspaper promoting the idea that native English women should never have kids so they can be replaced by foreigners.

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Sandy Pantz - What a shock, a far left newspaper promoting the idea that native English women should never have kids so they can be replaced by foreigners.

correct

 

lol the "science" shows that men benefit from marriage and women dont

 

of course we all know this dont we OG? lol

 

nothing happier than a 40 yr old childless career woman

 

dont have a family work in a cubicle at a souless job instead, thats happiness of course

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complete horseshit

nothing angrier than a 40 yr old woman never been married and childless.

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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/high-octane-women/201109/meet-the-least-happy-people-in-america?amp

 

Psychology today seems to think just the opposite.

 

It also suggest that whatever is going on with modern society, women just simply arent that happy....period.

"What a shock, a far left newspaper promoting the idea that native English women should never have kids so they can be replaced by foreigners."

BINGO!

Guardian headlines from just the last WEEK:




'Democracy has been hijacked by white men': how minority rule now grips America

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/24/democracy-has-been-hijacked-by-white-men-how-minority-rule-now-grips-america






White teachers like me should not be policing black pupils' hair

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/22/white-teachers-policing-black-pupils-hair-uk-schools






Museum art collections are very male and very white

https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2019/may/21/museum-art-collections-study-very-male-very-white






Why is Brussels so white? The EU's race problem that no one talks about

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/19/eu-race-problem-european-elections-meps-migrants-minorities






Rich white men rule America. How much longer will we tolerate that?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/20/rich-white-men-rule-america-minority-rule






Why the senators' race matters in reporting the Alabama abortion ban

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/19/senators-race-matter-alabama-abortion-ban-men-white

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CavemanDave - 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/high-octane-women/201109/meet-the-least-happy-people-in-america?amp

 

Psychology today seems to think just the opposite.

 

It also suggest that whatever is going on with modern society, women just simply arent that happy....period.


Yeah I seem to sense most women are pretty unhappy but I wonder why? Has watching the kardashians completely warped their expectations? Does Instagram make them feel ugly and fat and lifeless in comparison with the Instagram models?

johnsonbarr - nothing angrier than a 40 yr old woman never been married and childless.

Exactly.

 

Anybody who knows (or worse yet, has to work with and tolerare) unmarried women past 40 with no kids knows they are almost without question the most miserable group of people on the planet, and want nothing more than to spread that misery to any and every single human they come in contact with.

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CavemanDave -

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/high-octane-women/201109/meet-the-least-happy-people-in-america?amp

 

Psychology today seems to think just the opposite.

 

It also suggest that whatever is going on with modern society, women just simply arent that happy....period.

there's lots of studies showing this

 

I looked into this american time use survery site and couldn't find anything that would reliably measure happiness

 

my guess is Dolan is a faggot and has an agenda, Im not going to buy his book and Im going to need better evidence then Dolan citing a website that doesn't even measure happiness, but use of time.

Sandy Pantz - Guardian headlines from just the last WEEK:




'Democracy has been hijacked by white men': how minority rule now grips America

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/24/democracy-has-been-hijacked-by-white-men-how-minority-rule-now-grips-america






White teachers like me should not be policing black pupils' hair

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/22/white-teachers-policing-black-pupils-hair-uk-schools






Museum art collections are very male and very white

https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2019/may/21/museum-art-collections-study-very-male-very-white






Why is Brussels so white? The EU's race problem that no one talks about

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/19/eu-race-problem-european-elections-meps-migrants-minorities






Rich white men rule America. How much longer will we tolerate that?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/20/rich-white-men-rule-america-minority-rule






Why the senators' race matters in reporting the Alabama abortion ban

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/19/senators-race-matter-alabama-abortion-ban-men-white

lol

fuck that organization right in their racist ass

 

I believe that is one of ghenghiseanie's favorite news sites

And the unhappiest profile?:

  • Female
  • 42 years old
  • Unmarried (and no children)
  • Household income under $100,000
  • In a professional position (doctor, lawyer, etc.)
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CavemanDave - 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/high-octane-women/201109/meet-the-least-happy-people-in-america?amp

 

Psychology today seems to think just the opposite.

 

It also suggest that whatever is going on with modern society, women just simply arent that happy....period.


Yeah I seem to sense most women are pretty unhappy but I wonder why? Has watching the kardashians completely warped their expectations? Does Instagram make them feel ugly and fat and lifeless in comparison with the Instagram models?


Social media is causing some kind of competitive disorder with women, I'm almost convinced of it.  It's as prevalent as men having issues due to porn, if not more so.  


 


Also, the shift in attitude towards sex is pretty much a recipe for female misery.  They arent built for casual sex, because there really isnt such a thing for most mammals with an epically large reproductive buy-in who can get pregnant.  


 


Basically women arent built for this, and they are getting torn between their desire for elevating their position in the human dominance hierarchy and the punishing nature of modern day sexual practices for women. 


 


Then again maybe I'm wrong...but something is going on with women that's making an epic number of them miserable.

Enjoy your cats ugly women and feminists

gregbrady -

And the unhappiest profile?:

  • Female
  • 42 years old
  • Unmarried (and no children)
  • Household income under $100,000
  • In a professional position (doctor, lawyer, etc.)

To be honest I'm not sure how accurate this kind of survey is, but this is clearly a profile of a woman set on success...the problem is that profile is really a Male definition of success.  

 

I dont think we are the same. For a man this profile still has reproductive potential.  For a woman, this is the profile of an evolutionary dead end...and something makes me suspect ending up in that kind of place for a smart and successful person is brutal on the psyche.

CavemanDave -
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CavemanDave - 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/high-octane-women/201109/meet-the-least-happy-people-in-america?amp

 

Psychology today seems to think just the opposite.

 

It also suggest that whatever is going on with modern society, women just simply arent that happy....period.


Yeah I seem to sense most women are pretty unhappy but I wonder why? Has watching the kardashians completely warped their expectations? Does Instagram make them feel ugly and fat and lifeless in comparison with the Instagram models?


Social media is causing some kind of competitive disorder with women, I'm almost convinced of it.  It's as prevalent as men having issues due to porn, if not more so.  


 


Also, the shift in attitude towards sex is pretty much a recipe for female misery.  They arent built for casual sex, because there really isnt such a thing for most mammals with an epically large reproductive buy-in who can get pregnant.  


 


Basically women arent built for this, and they are getting torn between their desire for elevating their position in the human dominance hierarchy and the punishing nature of modern day sexual practices for women. 


 


Then again maybe I'm wrong...but something is going on with women that's making an epic number of them miserable.



Can you explain what is meant by "epically large reproductive buy-in"

The Guardian is utter shit, and should never be referenced.

Nobody is as miserable as a middle aged woman who is single and without kids. Nobody.