That wasn't addressed to you Vec. But I disagree. Alistair has the cardio now that he didn't have at 205. And he's 250 now, and STILL FAST.
Brock hasn't had to deal with a huge striker yet, and I don't see him taking Al down. Al is too strong and has a great TD defense now, plus way more mma experience than Brock. Even if Brock tried to take him down, he'd pay everytime, and could even get knocked the fuck out coming in.
crocop was supposed to take the ufc belt....
"No he's not hot and cold anymore. Go and look at his record twit. That was years ago when he was 205 kid."
You might want to update your post some more as well. Name me one top 10 heavyweight that he's beaten in MMA.
Exactly, ZERO. OK, maybe Kharnitov, but who he later got KOed by.
I'm a huge Overeem fan so I'd love to be wrong, but he has to face some top 10 guys first at HW.
As for being hot and cold, that's part of him as a fighter regardless of the weight he was fighting at. It's common knowledge that he typically crumbles when the going gets tough i.e. hot and cold.
They'd have to surgically remove his knee from Brock's or Mir's face.
I've always though Overeem was strongly underrated and now that he hasn't had a loss in awhile he is becoming highly overrated. He has a top-notch striking game (especially in the clinch) to go with a world-class guillotine and all around good ground game. That has always been the case and he got a bad rap because he would often lose to top-notch comp after a dominating start. Recently he's had easier match-ups and looked dominating because he's a truly bad MF'er but that shouldn't swing the pendulum so hard the other way as to how he is viewed.
Bottom line: The demolition man has a world of potential and would be a hella of an addition to the weakened HW division (I think he has the ability to beat anyone in it right now) but peeps should refrain from anointing him the next big thing until he actually proves it against world-class comp. Which BTW, could be in the UFC or not-- the HW talent is really scattered right now. I think we'll see where Overeem really stands before too long- wherever he ends up.
Mad Xyientist - They'd have to surgically remove his knee from Brock's or Mir's face.
You, sire, are correct.
I hope he comes to UFC, and I hope his recent sucess doesnt have to do with suplements that are banned in the US. He would be a very very dangerous opponent to any current UFC heavyweight.
As dangerous as he is on his feet, Id like to see how he would do against someone his size like Brock, especially considering Brock is a wrestler.
Interesting to see how he would deal with that.
Alistar moving to HW was great for his career and great for the fans. Especially if he did not require suplements illegal in the US.
Its so funny to watch these threads after someone has a good performance.
The weight and size gain is of course questionable but completely discounting that don't you think its a bit early to be comparing what he is doing to Anderson Silva's run?
Here is a hint, guys always look unstoppable when they have a fight where everything goes right.
Overeem is a very good fight and may in fact be coming into his own but chill out and lets see.
The answer the OP's question, he certainly has the tools to be champ.
Alistair will be the biggest, and only 8 point fighter in the UFC, who actually has good sub skills and TD defence as well.
And a fine ass girlfriend to boot.
Adam98SVT - I hope he comes to UFC, and I hope his recent sucess doesnt have to do with suplements that are banned in the US. He would be a very very dangerous opponent to any current UFC heavyweight.
As dangerous as he is on his feet, Id like to see how he would do against someone his size like Brock, especially considering Brock is a wrestler.
Interesting to see how he would deal with that.
Alistar moving to HW was great for his career and great for the fans. Especially if he did not require suplements illegal in the US.
Brock hasn't been hurt by using any supplements in the US, hater boy. So assuming Alistair is on any is kinda a weak move.
Anyway, Brock's going to end up with his cro magnon oversized Tito head with a large knee crater in it.
Herring In A Fur Coat - How does his girlfriend relate to his fighting ability?
Are you kidding me? Not trying to insult you but you obviously haven't been with any hot chicks.
I've fucking dated smokin' chicks and even a Playboy bunny here in LA. Hot chicks are falling off of the trees arpimd here. A hot chick is a great way to motivate a guy to strive to be better and better. Knowing that she's watching you makes you want to be better/stronger. And her watching you be a winner means you're getting the mother of all fucks later on that night.
Make sense?
Well he was at 205 then meng! I don't get why people keep being thinking this is the Alistair of old. The guy is a completely different fighter now at 250. Come on this is 2009 already.
But yea man, hot chicks are a great motivator. Unfortunately, usually they ditch you for another guy with more money/pull if it seems like you're starting to "lose."
Who the fuck cares. Bang em while you can. They are largely interchangable anyway. I think they might clone them out here, as well as Miami. Not sure where you're from but man oh man it's crazy out here with the hot chicks.
What's up with all the beerbellied hillbilly hate on this thread?
^^^ I gotta go with Herring on this one, the hot chick things seem to wreck a guy more than help him. AA got metro'd out and KO'd, Chuck got KO'd after getting engaged, Shogun hasn't been the same since he got married.. they suck the life outta ya (no pun intended.)
walr?s -aikmanr - He's too weak on the ground. He'd get submitted or GNP'd by the top guys.
he won the European ADCC trials, you choad licker.
HAHA! Walr's, you made me spit out my water. Damn you for being an actual MMA fan with a good memory.
I think he would be a threat to beat any of the top HW's in the UFC. Some great matchups waiting for him in the UFC... Kongo, Gonzaga, Brock, Nog.
On paper he could easily be #1 in the world, but he hasn't proven it yet. He got stopped the last time he fought a top heavy (Kharitonov), but that was a year and a half ago, so who knows? Hopefully we'll get to find out.
Grak you are completely right. Chicks (esp. hot ones) tend to try to dominate men and distract them. They also tend to be dreamkillers (aka Mark Kerr's psycho chick). Some are cool, but those are very rare. Hendo's woman seems to backup her man and make him a better/stronger person/fighter. So I'm only generalizing. There are exceptions.
These definately aren't the days of a man and a woman being together for 60 yeats (back in the 50's) and actually taking their marriage vows seriously. Now it's just a business contract, with the hottest chicks trying to net the biggest, most monied man-catch. We'll lost our values here in America overall. Not to sound jaded.
If you're an up and comer, stay away from women until AFTER you've already made it.
Anyone agree?
Herring In A Fur Coat - ^ That didn't seem to work for Brandon Vera, Vitor Belfort, or Shogun..... I call bullshit on your hot chicks theory.
"The mother of all fucks" is pretty funny though.
There are exceptions. I am a man and speak in gereralities (logic). There are always exceptions man.
he's deff a fighter that has progressed since pride.. like rampage and silva. it'd be cool to see what he could do in the ufc.
nhmmafan - he's deff a fighter that has progressed since pride.. like rampage and silva. it'd be cool to see what he could do in the ufc.
It's a toss up man. Americans seem to like things black or white, A or B. That's why they can't understand how some Pride guys make it, and others don't. It's too much for their little pea brains to handle. Which is why you have such intellectual threads as "Pride fighters sux in the UFC foolz!" while ignorning that some have made the transition.
Thanks for the vid Dream. That was brutal to watch. Dude got served.