first let's say they were the same weight
and second, in a grappling match
would gsp break down eddie bravo's rubber guard easily and then pass his half guard like butter?
just curious because eddie is always perfecting the rubber guard...and it didn't work for bj very well
GSP by grease 1st round.
would eddie be eating punches like bj?
ZzFDKzZ - GSP by grease 1st round.
well
bravo always wears gi pants
i cant even imagine 95 lb eddie at gsps weight.
FSMA - would eddie be eating punches like bj?
sure
and
no
go with both scenarios
because eddie teaches rubberguard for mma
so it only makes sense to say "yes punches allowed"
you don't think?
some people's posture is hard to break
could eddie keep georges posture broken and capitalize on it?
lol
gsp just snaked through
weird
Those are some pretty slick looking shoulders.
maybe he just has really oily skin?
pigpen, I don't really see the point of your questions - your first few stipulations state that your hypothetical gsp vs. bravo match would be a "grappling match". In this case this heavily favors Bravo.
However, you then mention how the RG "didn't work for BJ very well". In this case, it was an MMA match with strikes, which totally changes the game.
But, to answer your varying questions as best as I can: if this was a straight no gi grappling match, GSP would have a much harder time passing Eddie's RG, and he would not have an easy time passing Eddie's half guard (that's actually Bravo's bread & butter).
In an MMA match with striking involved, GSP would have many more options to pass Bravo's guard, and IMO would do so with relative ease.
Idiots. Look, GSP grabs BJ around the neck and pulls himself through. Just like he said that he trained.
er, what he did in that gif is NOT posturing lol
but then again, bj is just using a high guard, or I think "crackhead control" is what bravo calls it
esila - pigpen, I don't really see the point of your questions - your first few stipulations state that your hypothetical gsp vs. bravo match would be a "grappling match". In this case this heavily favors Bravo.esila, true true
However, you then mention how the RG "didn't work for BJ very well". In this case, it was an MMA match with strikes, which totally changes the game.
But, to answer your varying questions as best as I can: if this was a straight no gi grappling match, GSP would have a much harder time passing Eddie's RG, and he would not have an easy time passing Eddie's half guard (that's actually Bravo's bread & butter).
In an MMA match with striking involved, GSP would have many more options to pass Bravo's guard, and IMO would do so with relative ease.
at first I said grappling, but then changed it to grappling and mma, because that would only make sense(since I'm referring tot the bj/gsp fight anyway and because eddie does teach rubberguard for mma)
so you DO think gsp would pass the guard with relative ease?
what about hazelett's guard or aoki's or anyone else?
toshii
BJ: "I saw he had tiny, compact buttocks, which he would use for delivering brutal kicks. I targeted those bottocks. With my heels. I filled them with blood, cramping them like two beautiful Canadian female co-workers on the third week of the month"
pigpen - so you DO think gsp would pass the guard with relative ease?
what about hazelett's guard or aoki's or anyone else?
pigpen, sorry if I came across a little jackassish with my last response, long day at work :)
Yes, I do believe GSP would pass a Bravo's guard with relative ease if it was an MMA match.
And as far as the Hazelett and Aoki question (whew, my two fav. innovative RG fighters lol), and as much as my BJJ training says otherwise, I believe the following:
If you fight GSP and your guard is dedicated towards "stalling" or attempts to control GSP and submit him, it is going to get passed. Factors such as striking, his wrestling base, his BJJ guard passing technique, and his athleticism is too much to overcome for even technical players such as Hazelett and Aoki.
Now, if their guard strategy is to minimize striking damage and get back to their base / feet as soon as possible, this would have a higher success rate. This is due to the fact that escaping to your feet or to your base does not require your opponent's posture to be broken. Aoki and Hazelett would have to first break GSP's posture before attempting any submissions / sweeps, and with what we saw during the BJ matchup, this is VERY hard to do. Hope this answers your question! Great discussion!
toshii -
Damn, I wish I was athletic enough to break down high-guard without even moving!
pigpen - would gsp break down eddie bravo's rubber guard easily and then pass his half guard like butter?
he'd pass so easy you'd think he was actually buttered... lol