Would you agree that if DC beats Stipe, that win will overshadow Cormiers losses to Jon Jones & put a story book ending to DCs career?
feel like it would. All the greats have ups and downs in their career but its how you end the story that matters. Itd be a perfect way to go out.
Make no mistake, those losses will haunt him forever. Mostly because of the build up and shit talk.
If he manages to beat Stipe it will be a huge accomplishment that will raise his stature enormously, but you can never forget how Jones owned him.
Nope.
Cecil Peoples Fan -blood fist -
If he manages to beat Stipe it will be a huge accomplishment that will raise his stature enormously, but you can never forget how Jones owned him.
I wouldn’t say Jones owned him
A coked up, roided Jones barely won the first fight. It was razor close.
Jones was down 2 rounds to 0 in the second fight when he caught DC.
Again...Jones had to cheat to win vs DC.
To me, once you pop it nullifies EVERYTHING you did in the sport.
Keep saying that to yourself Daniel...
I dont think those fights his career at all. Jones drug failures make those fights completely non-existent.
He was competitive with Jones in the 7 rounds they fought up until the headkick.
If DC wins he beats the GOAT HW (exept maybe Fedor) who is in his prime. I would say that makes DC the GOAT. Jon Jones disqualified himself for getting busted twice with PED's.
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If he manages to beat Stipe it will be a huge accomplishment that will raise his stature enormously, but you can never forget how Jones owned him.
Jones was juicing so those fights don't matter. The second one became a no-contest.
I think it makes DC one of the all time greats. DC will even tell you he lost to jones, and never made an excuse for jones popping. It just leaves that little linger of doubt of what could have happened if jones was clean. I mean, he didn’t need it. He should be the all time GOAT at this point, but he can’t keep his nose clean. So in my opinion, even with Jones being a cheater, DC will always have that on his mind, even if the fans don’t.
Will always be questionable. Although I personally feel DC is the greatest LHW, and a win over Miocic should 100% make him the greatest P4P fighter of all time, it’ll be difficult in 50 years from now to excuse 2 losses to the same fighter in 2 different periods.
I love DC, but no.
Bigtrain2681 -Will always be questionable. Although I personally feel DC is the greatest LHW, and a win over Miocic should 100% make him the greatest P4P fighter of all time, it’ll be difficult in 50 years from now to excuse 2 losses to the same fighter in 2 different periods.
So now he’s 100% the GOAT if he wins?
Wonder who the GOAT will be next week? Or the week after that?
He can’t be the greatest if there’s a man out there he cant beat, cocain, steroids or otherwise. A roided fighter never lost before? C’mon.
If Cormier beats Stipe, it futhers cements his greatness..and the greatness of Jon Jones.
Beating Stipe will cement DC’s legacy. It won’t erase two losses to the same man. I hope we see Bones two or three more times before he’s out of his prime. Steroid accusations or not; that fighter is special.
It would cement his legacy as an all-timer, but there is no getting away from the fact that Jones had his number.
That's not to say it should be used as a stick to beat Cormier with. Jones is the greatest fighter to ever walk the earth, in my opinion.
My first reaction was "no". I think Cormier is defined largely by his matches with Jones. They were the clear two best guys and there was a lot of animosity and Jones beat him convincingly both times. However, at a certain juncture in Randy and Chuck's careers I would have said that about them as well. Even though Randy lost the trilogy he went on to do a lot of great things and they did add to his legacy and broaden the way his career is viewed, instead of looking at it more narrowly and giving his trilogy with Chuck as much weight as it deserved right after their third fight. Cormier is old though. I think if he beats Stipe it will help him a lot. If he can defend the HW belt once or twice then maybe he can "pull a Randy" and get away from having his legacy be so attached to a couple losses to the same guy. If Cormier can beat Stipe and then defend a couple times, or get Jones back in the ring and beat him, or both, then yeah, he can distance himself from the Jones losses.
Malvert the Janitor -Cecil Peoples Fan -blood fist -
If he manages to beat Stipe it will be a huge accomplishment that will raise his stature enormously, but you can never forget how Jones owned him.
I wouldn’t say Jones owned him
A coked up, roided Jones barely won the first fight. It was razor close.
Jones was down 2 rounds to 0 in the second fight when he caught DC.
Again...Jones had to cheat to win vs DC.
To me, once you pop it nullifies EVERYTHING you did in the sport.Keep saying that to yourself Daniel...
Haha this... fuck facts right?
DC’s last 4 title shots,....
Gus: arguably lost (sd win)
Rumble: cheated to make weight
Jones: Took a horrible ass kicking. TKO’d violently
Volkan: Young green fighter. Been pro for 4 years. Good winnthough
LOL at best LHW ever
Jones used performance enhancing drugs to enhance his performance against DC, why can know one understand that. If DC wins vs Stipe, he will go down as having a more memorial career than Jones.
Swaggy D -Jones used performance enhancing drugs to enhance his performance against DC, why can know one understand that. If DC wins vs Stipe, he will go down as having a more memorial career than Jones.
Both fighters were clean for their first fight. If you’re going to assume Jones was dirty, and just got lucky and passed tests, we can also assume DC cheated for both fights. Especially considering his suspicious t-levels