Wrestling Paradox

ender852 - Why would it be absurd that a bunch of champs have a wrestling base? It has been established many times over that a strong wrestling base is a huge advantage in mma. Phone Post 3.0

It isn't, the OP just doesn't actually know what paradox means.

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ender852 - Why would it be absurd that a bunch of champs have a wrestling base? It has been established many times over that a strong wrestling base is a huge advantage in mma. Phone Post 3.0

It isn't, the OP just doesn't actually know what paradox means.
Yes I do. You don't understand the distinction between a factual paradox and an opinion-based riddle. Plus, all you are doing is begging the question. Phone Post 3.0

ender852 - Why would it be absurd that a bunch of champs have a wrestling base? It has been established many times over that a strong wrestling base is a huge advantage in mma. Phone Post 3.0
This is a classic example of begging the question.

You are assuming supposed absurdity.

There is no supposition in my original post (it's more of a factual paradox) Phone Post 3.0

ender852 - I wild each it? Phone Post 3.0
I don't know what this means. I assume this is from the beach volleyball thread. Phone Post 3.0

Pessimist_Pete - He was also an NCAA Div 1 champion. In Canada they call it something different but it's the same thing essentially Phone Post 3.0

In GSP's case we Canadians call his NCAA Div 1 credentials "Never wrestled prior to doing MMA"

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Pessimist_Pete - He was also an NCAA Div 1 champion. In Canada they call it something different but it's the same thing essentially Phone Post 3.0

In GSP's case we Canadians call his NCAA Div 1 credentials "Never wrestled prior to doing MMA"
What does that even mean? Are you saying GSP has no background in wrestling? Phone Post 3.0

Pessimist_Pete - 
hybridfc - yo that isnt a paradox. there r just two correct answers to that shitty riddle. Phone Post
This. A riddle is an opinion in the form of a question. That's different from a factual paradox. Phone Post 3.0

Hmmm, I will have to disagree about that definition of a riddle.

I see a riddle being more of a puzzling set of clues containing varying degrees of revelatory facts that when logically and or artfully delineated unto their correlating relationships point towards a specific outcome or answer.

It has been shown that having not only expertise in some or other fields of endeavor, but also a wide ranging knowledge of the information learned and collected through the years of human existence are handy and useful tools when attempting to solve riddles for the desired solution.

In short, it is usually not based on opinion, but more so based on learned and logical calculative thought for a specific outcome.

That's just my opinion though.

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Pessimist_Pete - 
hybridfc - yo that isnt a paradox. there r just two correct answers to that shitty riddle. Phone Post
This. A riddle is an opinion in the form of a question. That's different from a factual paradox. Phone Post 3.0

Hmmm, I will have to disagree about that definition of a riddle.

I see a riddle being more of a puzzling set of clues containing varying degrees of revelatory facts that when logically and or artfully delineated unto their correlating relationships point towards a specific outcome or answer.

It has been shown that having not only expertise in some or other fields of endeavor, but also a wide ranging knowledge of the information learned and collected through the years of human existence are handy and useful tools when attempting to solve riddles for the desired solution.

In short, it is usually not based on opinion, but more so based on learned and logical calculative thought for a specific outcome.

That's just my opinion though.
You basically just assumed what you set out to argue. Phone Post 3.0

wiggum - Paradox?

How is this a paradox?

Wrestling is good for MMA

And good MMA fighters use wrestling.

KFC.
A good MMA athlete. These guys aren't fighters.

Pro fights aren't judged with an amateur scoring system.

MMA nowadays is judged soley on points. The impact of the punches dong matter. The going for submissions dong matter. Going for the finish doesnt matter. Trying to end the fights rodent matter.

The only thing that matters is scoring points by tags, takedowns and positioning.

The striking is judged with Amateur boxing and amateur wrestling criteria. Hence they are not pro fighters. They mma athletes that get paid for amateur fights Phone Post 3.0

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wiggum - Paradox?

How is this a paradox?

Wrestling is good for MMA

And good MMA fighters use wrestling.

KFC.
It's s paradox because its true but most people don't think it's true. As a factual matter. Phone Post 3.0
That is not a paradox.
A paradox is a statement that contradicts itself but is somehow also true. Something both false and true at the same time depending on how you look at it.

Example:
If I pick an answer randomly from A-D, what percentage of the time am I correct?
A. 0%
B. 25%
C. 25%
D. 50%

Is the answer 25% or 50%?
Both? How is that possible?
It is a paradox. Phone Post 3.0
OP obviously does not have a paradox but, at the risk of being a douche, this is not a paradox either. It is simply a question without enough information provided to discern an answer and, in fact, relies on language ambiguity to give the feeling of a paradox. The answers to the marked A through D are subsets of the answer to the question asked; the fact that the answer to those choices may be a given number does not contradict that the answer to the question being asked (the probability of being correct in random choice) may be a different number. This problem has a simple answer that requires only one assumption (0, 25, or 50 percent is the answer to the choices) and gives different values based on which assumption the variable takes. Paradoxes are not solvable by means such as this. Phone Post 3.0

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wiggum - Paradox?

How is this a paradox?

Wrestling is good for MMA

And good MMA fighters use wrestling.

KFC.
It's s paradox because its true but most people don't think it's true. As a factual matter. Phone Post 3.0
That is not a paradox.
A paradox is a statement that contradicts itself but is somehow also true. Something both false and true at the same time depending on how you look at it.

Example:
If I pick an answer randomly from A-D, what percentage of the time am I correct?
A. 0%
B. 25%
C. 25%
D. 50%

Is the answer 25% or 50%?
Both? How is that possible?
It is a paradox. Phone Post 3.0
OP obviously does not have a paradox but, at the risk of being a douche, this is not a paradox either. It is simply a question without enough information provided to discern an answer and, in fact, relies on language ambiguity to give the feeling of a paradox. The answers to the marked A through D are subsets of the answer to the question asked; the fact that the answer to those choices may be a given number does not contradict that the answer to the question being asked (the probability of being correct in random choice) may be a different number. This problem has a simple answer that requires only one assumption (0, 25, or 50 percent is the answer to the choices) and gives different values based on which assumption the variable takes. Paradoxes are not solvable by means such as this. Phone Post 3.0
It's a riddle, like I said. Opinion-based one at that. Phone Post 3.0

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hybridfc - yo that isnt a paradox. there r just two correct answers to that shitty riddle. Phone Post
This. A riddle is an opinion in the form of a question. That's different from a factual paradox. Phone Post 3.0

Hmmm, I will have to disagree about that definition of a riddle.

I see a riddle being more of a puzzling set of clues containing varying degrees of revelatory facts that when logically and or artfully delineated unto their correlating relationships point towards a specific outcome or answer.

It has been shown that having not only expertise in some or other fields of endeavor, but also a wide ranging knowledge of the information learned and collected through the years of human existence are handy and useful tools when attempting to solve riddles for the desired solution.

In short, it is usually not based on opinion, but more so based on learned and logical calculative thought for a specific outcome.

That's just my opinion though.
You basically just assumed what you set out to argue. Phone Post 3.0

Aren't almost all arguments built this way?

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hybridfc - yo that isnt a paradox. there r just two correct answers to that shitty riddle. Phone Post
This. A riddle is an opinion in the form of a question. That's different from a factual paradox. Phone Post 3.0

Hmmm, I will have to disagree about that definition of a riddle.

I see a riddle being more of a puzzling set of clues containing varying degrees of revelatory facts that when logically and or artfully delineated unto their correlating relationships point towards a specific outcome or answer.

It has been shown that having not only expertise in some or other fields of endeavor, but also a wide ranging knowledge of the information learned and collected through the years of human existence are handy and useful tools when attempting to solve riddles for the desired solution.

In short, it is usually not based on opinion, but more so based on learned and logical calculative thought for a specific outcome.

That's just my opinion though.
You basically just assumed what you set out to argue. Phone Post 3.0

Aren't almost all arguments built this way?
No. For instance, there is a factual paradox. Phone Post 3.0

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Pessimist_Pete - 
hybridfc - yo that isnt a paradox. there r just two correct answers to that shitty riddle. Phone Post
This. A riddle is an opinion in the form of a question. That's different from a factual paradox. Phone Post 3.0

Hmmm, I will have to disagree about that definition of a riddle.

I see a riddle being more of a puzzling set of clues containing varying degrees of revelatory facts that when logically and or artfully delineated unto their correlating relationships point towards a specific outcome or answer.

It has been shown that having not only expertise in some or other fields of endeavor, but also a wide ranging knowledge of the information learned and collected through the years of human existence are handy and useful tools when attempting to solve riddles for the desired solution.

In short, it is usually not based on opinion, but more so based on learned and logical calculative thought for a specific outcome.

That's just my opinion though.
You basically just assumed what you set out to argue. Phone Post 3.0

Aren't almost all arguments built this way?

You're asking the wrong person for advice on logic...

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hybridfc - yo that isnt a paradox. there r just two correct answers to that shitty riddle. Phone Post
This. A riddle is an opinion in the form of a question. That's different from a factual paradox. Phone Post 3.0

Hmmm, I will have to disagree about that definition of a riddle.

I see a riddle being more of a puzzling set of clues containing varying degrees of revelatory facts that when logically and or artfully delineated unto their correlating relationships point towards a specific outcome or answer.

It has been shown that having not only expertise in some or other fields of endeavor, but also a wide ranging knowledge of the information learned and collected through the years of human existence are handy and useful tools when attempting to solve riddles for the desired solution.

In short, it is usually not based on opinion, but more so based on learned and logical calculative thought for a specific outcome.

That's just my opinion though.
You basically just assumed what you set out to argue. Phone Post 3.0

Aren't almost all arguments built this way?

You're asking the wrong person for advice on logic...
Logic is not advised. You either understand logic. Or you don't (you clearly don't). There is no room for advice or debate about logic. Phone Post 3.0

You can't teach that which is ready known. You can help someone identify it. But logic is not like language. You teach a language. You don't reach logic. It is inherent. Phone Post 3.0

*teach

Also, not a single person can logically disagree with my original point. Phone Post 3.0

I think the next wave of champs will be coming from aikido. And possibly ninjutsu. Phone Post 3.0

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hybridfc - yo that isnt a paradox. there r just two correct answers to that shitty riddle. Phone Post
This. A riddle is an opinion in the form of a question. That's different from a factual paradox. Phone Post 3.0

Hmmm, I will have to disagree about that definition of a riddle.

I see a riddle being more of a puzzling set of clues containing varying degrees of revelatory facts that when logically and or artfully delineated unto their correlating relationships point towards a specific outcome or answer.

It has been shown that having not only expertise in some or other fields of endeavor, but also a wide ranging knowledge of the information learned and collected through the years of human existence are handy and useful tools when attempting to solve riddles for the desired solution.

In short, it is usually not based on opinion, but more so based on learned and logical calculative thought for a specific outcome.

That's just my opinion though.
You basically just assumed what you set out to argue. Phone Post 3.0

Aren't almost all arguments built this way?
No. For instance, there is a factual paradox. Phone Post 3.0

Well there you go.

You are not talking about a riddle anymore, you are back to a paradox.

Apples and Oranges friend. :)

Websters FTW!

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hybridfc - yo that isnt a paradox. there r just two correct answers to that shitty riddle. Phone Post
This. A riddle is an opinion in the form of a question. That's different from a factual paradox. Phone Post 3.0

Hmmm, I will have to disagree about that definition of a riddle.

I see a riddle being more of a puzzling set of clues containing varying degrees of revelatory facts that when logically and or artfully delineated unto their correlating relationships point towards a specific outcome or answer.

It has been shown that having not only expertise in some or other fields of endeavor, but also a wide ranging knowledge of the information learned and collected through the years of human existence are handy and useful tools when attempting to solve riddles for the desired solution.

In short, it is usually not based on opinion, but more so based on learned and logical calculative thought for a specific outcome.

That's just my opinion though.
You basically just assumed what you set out to argue. Phone Post 3.0

Aren't almost all arguments built this way?

You're asking the wrong person for advice on logic...

I am beginning to understand this...