That Vitor is not the only fighter using TRT, right?
Just checking.
Test didn't give him power. He had that when he was a teenager. Josh Barnett didn't beat Mir because he once used steroids. There's lots of examples.
Now...
EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY! 
Vitor is on TRT?
Mind blown 
If trt doesnt affect his ability to fight then he should stop it. He already said he would stop if it meant a title shot, so why continue if you think you can win a title fight without it?
You do realize, Vitor IS the only fighter on trt, that has previously tested positive for anobolic steroids.
Kings21 - If trt doesnt affect his ability to fight then he should stop it. He already said he would stop if it meant a title shot, so why continue if you think you can win a title fight without it?
He's just using it to level the playing field. Nothing wrong with that as long as he doesn't abuse it /wink /wink
HeHitsMeBecauseHeLovesMe - You do realize, Vitor IS the only fighter on trt, that has previously tested positive for anobolic steroids.
This is what bother me about Vitor's TRT use
HeHitsMeBecauseHeLovesMe - You do realize, Vitor IS the only fighter on trt, that has previously tested positive for anobolic steroids.
I am a huge fan of Vitor, and love TRTVitor even more. That said, the OP is deliberately misleading. The teenage Vitor that destroyed John Hess (who deserved worse) was juiced out of his mind. Vitor had a long history of steroid abuse in the years before HRT became common.
I don't hold any kind of grudge against old fighters, as there was a time when athletic commissions didn't matter. Fighting in state's without AC's and on Indian reservations, Japan and Brazil, it was anything-goes. Modern fighters that get caught on steroids (Cyborg) get my full ire. TRT? Whatever, they're all on it.
BackOffWarchild - I am a huge fan of Vitor, and love TRTVitor even more. That said, the OP is deliberately misleading. The teenage Vitor that destroyed John Hess (who deserved worse) was juiced out of his mind. Vitor had a long history of steroid abuse in the years before HRT became common.I'm not misleading anything.
I don't hold any kind of grudge against old fighters, as there was a time when athletic commissions didn't matter. Fighting in state's without AC's and on Indian reservations, Japan and Brazil, it was anything-goes. Modern fighters that get caught on steroids (Cyborg) get my full ire. TRT? Whatever, they're all on it.
Of course I believe he used steroids and probably every performance enhancer imaginable. Lots of fighters do. He's not the only one.
His power and hand speed aren't based solely on PEDs. I'm sure they have helped tons.
Barry Bonds could hit a baseball without "the clear". I'm sure it helped.
My point is that Vitor is not the only one. That's all really.
a lot of references to Vitor / previous steroid use. does anyone recall what "steroid(s)" Vitor tested positive for?
Kings21 - If trt doesnt affect his ability to fight then he should stop it. He already said he would stop if it meant a title shot, so why continue if you think you can win a title fight without it?Unless, just maybe, it helps him in his day to day life
MDubz - It says online that on October 21 2006 after Pride 32 he was busted for being injected with 4-hydroxytestosterone.
thanks amigo! vu for doing the research.
4-hydroxytestosterone is a moderate anti-aromatase with minimal anabolic benefit. it's mainly used (although improperly imo) in post cycle therapy.
CrazyPope -HeHitsMeBecauseHeLovesMe - You do realize, Vitor IS the only fighter on trt, that has previously tested positive for anobolic steroids.
This is what bother me about Vitor's TRT use
to clear up this misconception, MDubz found Vitor tested positive for 4-hydroxytestosterone.
4-hydroxy is NOT an anabolic steroid, rather a moderate anti-aromatase. the anabolic benefit is minimal at best. maybe the speculation is that Vitor used 4-hydroxy as "PCT", however it's not recommended for PCT by anyone that understands proper PCT. my hunch is he used it to gain an assumed "legal" advantage (4-hydroxy is not a scheduled drug).
publics_lowDown_brazilianWax -This.Fabes -BackOffWarchild - I am a huge fan of Vitor, and love TRTVitor even more. That said, the OP is deliberately misleading. The teenage Vitor that destroyed John Hess (who deserved worse) was juiced out of his mind. Vitor had a long history of steroid abuse in the years before HRT became common.I'm not misleading anything.
I don't hold any kind of grudge against old fighters, as there was a time when athletic commissions didn't matter. Fighting in state's without AC's and on Indian reservations, Japan and Brazil, it was anything-goes. Modern fighters that get caught on steroids (Cyborg) get my full ire. TRT? Whatever, they're all on it.
Of course I believe he used steroids and probably every performance enhancer imaginable. Lots of fighters do. He's not the only one.
His power and hand speed aren't based solely on PEDs. I'm sure they have helped tons.
Barry Bonds could hit a baseball without "the clear". I'm sure it helped.
My point is that Vitor is not the only one. That's all really.
Wait, so in the OP you say he's always had that power then admit he probably was juicing at that time too. But all his power and hand speed don't come from PEDS? What percentage then? 20? 50? 90?
Funny that you bring up bonds McGwire etc. there's a reason no ones coming close to those HR totals again. Roids turned outfield easy catches into HRs
Just like it may take your good power and turn into KO hendo power.
Bruham - Vitor is on TRT?
Mind blown
jesus juice imo
sux@bjj -CrazyPope -HeHitsMeBecauseHeLovesMe - You do realize, Vitor IS the only fighter on trt, that has previously tested positive for anobolic steroids.
This is what bother me about Vitor's TRT use
to clear up this misconception, MDubz found Vitor tested positive for 4-hydroxytestosterone.
4-hydroxy is NOT an anabolic steroid, rather a moderate anti-aromatase. the anabolic benefit is minimal at best. maybe the speculation is that Vitor used 4-hydroxy as "PCT", however it's not recommended for PCT by anyone that understands proper PCT. my hunch is he used it to gain an assumed "legal" advantage (4-hydroxy is not a scheduled drug).
4-Hydroxytestosterone
4-Hydroxytestosterone is an anabolic steroid. It was first patented by G.D. Searle & Company in 1955 and is testosterone with a hydroxy group at the four position. Wikipedia
Formula: C19H28O3
Some of you are missing the point.
Oh well...
Can we all agree that this version of Vitor is a beast and fun to watch? And that a fight with Machida would be sick?
Just say yes!
Fabes - That Vitor is not the only fighter using TRT, right?
Just checking.
Test didn't give him power. He had that when he was a teenager. Josh Barnett didn't beat Mir because he once used steroids. There's lots of examples.
Now...
EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY!
Cool. Let's see what happen when he stops using TRT.
Fabes - Some of you are missing the point.
Oh well...
Can we all agree that this version of Vitor is a beast and fun to watch? And that a fight with Machida would be sick?
Just say yes!
This was horribly failed shilling. From one Vitor fan to another, just stop. I look forward to his 185 title reign, don't give a shit about TRT, and can see that a lot of Henderson fans are simply disappointed and angry. Your posts pooh-poohing Vitor's history of PED abuse completely ruined your attempt at feel-good MMA banter.
jason73 -sux@bjj -CrazyPope -HeHitsMeBecauseHeLovesMe - You do realize, Vitor IS the only fighter on trt, that has previously tested positive for anobolic steroids.
This is what bother me about Vitor's TRT use
to clear up this misconception, MDubz found Vitor tested positive for 4-hydroxytestosterone.
4-hydroxy is NOT an anabolic steroid, rather a moderate anti-aromatase. the anabolic benefit is minimal at best. maybe the speculation is that Vitor used 4-hydroxy as "PCT", however it's not recommended for PCT by anyone that understands proper PCT. my hunch is he used it to gain an assumed "legal" advantage (4-hydroxy is not a scheduled drug).
4-Hydroxytestosterone
4-Hydroxytestosterone is an anabolic steroid. It was first patented by G.D. Searle & Company in 1955 and is testosterone with a hydroxy group at the four position. Wikipedia
Formula: C19H28O3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formestane
^ an example of why we should to look beyond Wikipedia. formestane = 4-hydroxytestosterone and should not / is not an "anabolic steroid" in the true sense of the word.