Hey. I thought it woud be fun to do a thread where people list a few of
the techniques that are their 'bread and butter'. How about one
takedown(gi/no-gi/both), one sub/sweep from bottom, one sub from
top, and anything else that you've been working a lot? Include a strike
if you want. My striking isn't good enough to warrant doing that.
Takedown- I like an ankle pick from the standard wrestling tie-up for
no gi (very occasionally, can get this with the gi), and I'll throw an okay
Kouchi or Ouchi gari with the gi.
Sub from the bottom- I've been doing a lot of triangles, mostly with an
Eddie Bravo-esque setup.
Sub from the top-Straight armbar, usually from the mount, often from
the x-body.
Other: I've been hitting a guard pass Saulo and Xande showed me,
both gi and no-gi. It's the one where you have one arm in, one arm out
of the guard, but the guy can't triangle you because his bottom leg is
trapped between your legs, and your hand grabs it at ankle. I know
that's a miserable description, but hopefully you have some idea what
I'm talking about.
Look forward to hear what sort of stuff you guys go for.
Greg
Greggie: I could virtually duplicate your post. Those sound a lot like the
things that I like to work.
Mike
www.SBGi.ca
Present Projects:
TAKEDOWN- Harai Goshi. headlock grip for no-gi. It's always been "my move."
SUB FROM BOTTOM- I tend to hit the triangle with the best frequency, but it's not on purpose. I think it must be the way that I force people to pass.
SUB FROM TOP- straight armlock or kimura from north-south. (lately) usually: straight footlock.
ESCAPES- pressuring the switch to kesa from side mount and escaping during the transition. majorly working on this right now to improve my timing (which is finally getting pretty good).
DOMINANCE: Mounting the biggest boys and staying there. I weigh in at a *hulking* 155-160, so this has been a major project.
TRANSITION: Developing my underhook during the transition into half guard, so that I can slide right to the back instead of spending serious time there.
OTHER- I have been liking this set-up a lot lately: Attempt a snapdown straight into a knee. When partner stiffens up, slam headbutt to nose while getting left hand behind the neck and right hand under the chin. Run them backwards by the head, looking for something to slam them into (wall, fire hydrant, open manhole, etc.).
WEAPONS- Handshots with the cane/blade on centerline, developed through lots of practice without hand protection :-)
Um, yeah. Those sound like the areas I'm working on right now....today....how many more arts are there??? :-)
~TT
TAKEDOWN - armdrag to sweep single on the opposite side. Sounds weird, but I've been hitting it a lot. Now I just have to finish the damn single.
SUB FROM BOTTOM - Triangle and it's follow-ups, however, I'm starting to work butterfly guard more, so I'm going to need some different subs
SUB FROM TOP - side choke from everywhere!
BOTTOM GAME - Guard retention, N/S escapes
TOP GAME - Guard passing, working from kesa
CLINCH - Improving all-around takedown defense
STRIKING - effective punching and clinching vs. a good kickboxer
WEAPONS - saving money to buy a freakin' gun. ;)
Hmm, I guess that turned out to be part "favorite techs" list and part "to do" list...
Jeff
takedown - run at him and throw guard :)
sub from top - trying to tap people with just position at the moment, fav is 'shoulder of justice with ghost hand'
sub from bottom - rubber guard set up to arm bar, triangle or oma depending on what they give me
sweep - me ol' fav the elevator
escape - anything with pendulum motion, just love it!
weapons - having a higher IQ than my opponent
striking - hmmm, mmmm....so did i say i like BJJ :)
Very cool thread!
How about governing strategy from a coaching perspective? Self coaching as well as team coaching. Strategy over technique and perception over position makes for a greater learning curve in the long haul of any endeavor.
Takedowns:
Breaking the vertical plane, outflanking and / or off balancing via triangle points.
For example, I coach the kids to "shake & bake" = forward and backwards pressure through collar and sleeve grips or driving past hands and elbows for head position via hand fighting, drags, picks, and snap downs. Then "Roast & Toast" = Outflanking via foot sweeps, drags, lateral snaps downs etc.
Submissions from on top:
Attacking neck to get arms. Attacking arms to get the neck. The "crush mount" or "crush sides" to establish pressure and dominance and motivate them to move and hence offer something up.
Submissions from bottom:
Attacking the base to get the limbs. Sweep set ups for submission options. Open guard play to create space for them and openings for your finish. Closed and climbing guard play to motivate them to make space and openings for your finish.
Sweep:
Attacking the limbs to get to the base. Submission set ups for sweep options.
Escape:
Staying bladed, cycling pendulum options, creating and undertow by digging under them, playing the "ball" game ala granby for jits.
Weapons:
Intentions behind them, options to carry, reasons for implementing and legalities and consequences of using.
Striking:
Distance, attachment, and disengagement, and establishing pressure or regaining dominance in both the offense and defense of your game. (That's footwork, body movement, covers, and the power and delivery of your strikes in all ranges of mma.)
-Luis
www.straightblastgym.com
www.onedragon.com
Luis, could you explain the "staying bladed" concept? I haven't heard that terminology before. Thanks,
Jeff
STRIKES: My left hook off of the jab is my invitation for a "talk with the Wizard".
THROW: Harai-Goshi from my left side with an overhook and head control. Clinch is the weakest part of my game, and this is really my only move. When I land this move on people who know I only go for this move, I have a big smile on my face.
SUBMISSION FROM BOTTOM: Triangle, due to my holding on the back of the head like my opponet is a $20 crack whore "earning her wage". I also finish with armbars, gi-chokes, the occasional omaplata, and leglocks. My current project from bottom is a toe-hold from the X guard(Thanks, Chris Connelly).
SUBMISSION FROM TOP: Top Wrist Lock(Americana, Ude Garami) from side-mount, the occasional straight arm bar from mount( especially during his transitioning into my guard via a bridge), and the occasional cross-choke(Kata Gatame). However, what I am known for are my leg-locks from inside someone's guard. I primarily do ankle-locks, but I also do toe-holds, the occasional heel hook, and the occasional kneebar. When I want to shock people, I will keylock or scissor the knee( the lower extremity version of a "bicep slice"). My current pet project from top is Minotauro's "Anaconda Choke" from the sprawl.
SWEEPS: No one in particular. I do scissors, elevator, pendulum motions, and the "fake-the-kimura-then-bridge-the-hips" sweep
ESCAPES: My escapes usually have me ending back up in guard.
WEAPONS: A .40 caliber Taurus handgun, a Karish assault rifle(semi-automatic), two single barrel shotguns, one from each grandfather, and cheap, replica samurai swords that I don't know how to use. Oh, lest I forget, the escrima sticks that I keep hidden underneath the junk in my car.
My secret weapon, though, is my hair. When people see my hair, they immediately assume that I have not trained for too long, because most people get hair cuts after the first time they get their hair trapped underneath someone else. My hair also finds a way into peoples nose and mouth, which is quite annoying from what I understand.
Takedown: Knee-Pick to outside to inside foot sweep. Massive throw and I can generally be as mean or as nice as I want with it.
Bottom: Half-guard whizzer sweep. Ends up looking a lot like a lateral drop.
Top: Reverse Armbar from sidemount. Been working at getting the side-mounted triangle and then finishing with the Reverse Armbar after they power out of the Kimura.
In General: Well, trying to train for a MMA match so...
LOL @ "the shoulder of justice"
John,
Did Matt ever tell you what happened when he was teaching me the shoulder of justice?
Jerry
takedown – Try and look cool and like I know what I am doing until I am taken down and hopefully land in guard
sub from top – anything involving an arm triangle
sub from bottom – I love Eddie Bravo's no hands calf cutter from the half guard
escape – I have found that urinating on myself works 99% of the time when I am pinned
weapons – Scathing criticism
striking – My monkey is not so much crazy as it is confused and frightened
My jaw is aching from my lunchtime workout and a buddy of mine ruthlessly applying the "shoulder of justice"...
John/sbgireland, could you please tell me a little about how the rubber guard settups work? I´ve been experimenting a little with it myself but I don´t really know a lot about it.
I´ve looked at the techniques at Eddie Bravos site (www.thetwister.tv). I heard Eddie said that most of the rubber guard techniques come from the "invisible collar" possition, the pressure it puts on the neck. Do you know how to get the armbar, triangle and omo plata from there?
I think we met at the Denmark seminar by the way. The swedish guy :)
/Vic
I am in Total Basics Mode right now:
Striking: Workign the heck out of my basic western boxing. Focus on footwork, double jab and cross
Clinch: Double neck tie control and stricking
Takedowns: The good old double
Gaurd: Working hard on my closed gaurd control and attacks.
Passing: Focus on single under pass
Top Game: PRESSURE
Bottom Game: Zero energy escapes.
Personally: Trying to read about one book a week
Coaching: Creativity. Coaching the mental game.
Adam
Fun stuff. Top!
Greg
John K,
"sub from top - trying to tap people with just position at the moment, fav is 'shoulder of justice with ghost hand'"
That is so Kenpo, dude! What about the "obscure elbow"?
John F.
oh my god if you start talking about "clutching feathers" and "five swords" i am out of here:)
damn kenpo geeks
anyways,
recently i have been almost all ground game lately.
lots of training guard and being controlled from side with opponent wearing boxing gloves
heavy emphasis on side mount escapes... i always do great with this until i roll with this one guy with a collegiate level wrestling background... i am 225, he is 240+ and he makes himself feel like 500+ when controlling me......
my goal is to be able to regularly escape his side control!
but my bread and butter has got to be the head and arm in choke from side,top or bottom.it always seems to be my go to finish....always just looking to push that arm across,bury my chin behind his arm and i am in...
then my other "go to" bread and butters are always legs,
i seem to be able to find ankles pretty regularly...
trying to heavily improve my stand up clinch game,
always referring and taking notes and training and retraining from my video clinch bible of the singer sisters at uncle jerrys.... :)
it seems like everytime i watch that video i feel like i am watching something new...sorry not trying to plug anything...just truth....
rob
I'm in basics mode as well, so I'll follow Adam's schema. It must suck trying to open that closed guard, by the way.
Striking: Defense, footwork, straight punches. I've spent over a year doing about 95% hands for any standup training because I used to over-rely on kicks.
Clinch: Control -- body lock, single underhook, single leg.
Takedowns: From the body lock, single underhook, single leg
Guard: Attacking from angles
Passing: Perceiving opponent's legs & hips as a shifting series of horizontal and vertical planes. Their orientation dictates the pass.
Top Game: Cycle between crush sides and movement. Harness!
Bottom Game: Like Adam, zero energy escapes.
Personally: Trying to figure out how to make my recently separated AC joint (now sticking out an extra 1/2 inch) into a weapon for topgame.
Coaching: Steering students away from a student mindset. Coach them to become their own best coaches.
Steve Whittier
www.nexusma.com
ssssssshhhhhhhhh!!!! john frankl, you cant just go and let the whole world know about 'obscure elbow' - i'll be busting that out for Series 3...
(although you have made me realise why i put 'names' on every technique :/