It's simple. If Dana wanted to defend his fighters pay with any validity he would open the damn books. However, Zuffa is privately held company, and won't be doing so anytime soon. If you believe his latest remarks you are among the planets most nieve people. Everyone lies.
i wonder how much money they actually launder through this ufc and casino stuff.
Naive or not...why would Dana do that? To prove what to whom?
I doubt he feels like defending salaries to complaining UG members.
There is no MMA Fighter Union last time I checked...It's up to the fighters to say NO when Dana offers them a laughable $2000.00 to risk there necks...They don't say NO...So why would Dana wanna pay more???...
If your stupid enough to cut my lawn for $10 bucks...Why would I pay you $20???
EvilMaster, You've oversimplified. You can always find people who are willing to take a job for less money. However, at a certain point, you are taking underqualified, less committed people. The business has to make a reasoned decision on whether their pay structure is negatively affecting the quality of the product or service.
It appears that many people believe this to be the case currently.
"The business has to make a reasoned decision on whether their pay structure is negatively affecting the quality of the product or service. "
And Dana/The Fertittas have made their decision. And it's proving to be very successful.
CorranHorn and JJB, I can't disagree. I was not advocating that Zuffa was making the wrong decision, just stating that EvilMaster's reasoning, which was validated by another poster, was not valid.
In my opinion, the market--which has become more mainstream--is making it clear that well-marketed, well-matched main events are the major factor in their buying decision. As a result, we are seeing MUCH larger payouts--in terms of purse, PPV revenue sharing, and personal services contracts--for the main event players. The mid-card and preliminary fighters aren't sharing in the riches yet because the business sees no prevailing need to do so.
What will drive the prices up for these players is when we see viable competitive organizations that begin to offer them positions as main-eventers in their events. UFC will have to boost mid-card pay or lose these fighters.
Invalid analogy SleepItOff. I would not automatically take the lowest estimate, though, with a blind assumption that the work quality would be equal amon the bidders.
GM99 are you really Vincente Fox?
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From: OldSchoolMike
Date: 08/30/06 11:02 AM
Member Since: 01/01/2001
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You are so fucking stupid, go away. It is a PRIVATE business. NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS. Please delete your account so you do not make any more stupid threads like this.
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That is 100% correct, They have no reason to open up the books.
From: JuDoK@
Date: 08/30/06 12:37 AM
Member Since: 05/27/2002
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i wonder how much money they actually launder through this ufc and casino stuff.
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That is a wonderful statement, did you just learn what launder meant? I am sure the Ferttita's really launder money for organized crime. Because I am sure they would risk their casino operations and all the money now that Zuffa is making. Do you have any clue as to how hard it is to hide cash? No you dont!! Casino's are watched closer by the Gaming commision and IRS more than fortune 100 company's.
gman, there are people who would fight in the UFC for less than 2+2. They are not taking the lowest bidders, they are taking people prepared to fight for 2+2 in an untelevised fight in the hope that they put on a good show and get brought back for more money
Frank J. Fertitta III, Age 44
Chairman and CEO, $1,839,230 salary, $3,750,000 bonus
Recent Work Highlights
* Station Casinos, Inc.
o 2004: Chairman and CEO, $1,541,154 salary, $3,150,000 bonus
o 2003: Chairman and CEO, $1,385,500 salary, $1,775,313 bonus
o 2002: Chairman and CEO, $1,144,000 salary, $858,000 bonus
o 2001: Chairman and CEO, $1,144,000 salary, $214,500 bonus
That is just what Frank's salary and bonus were. Not to mention the fact that Station Casino's is a publicly traded company. I don't need to look up how many shares of stock he owns to know that he is making a lot more money than $5,000,000
CockneyBlue, Agreed. In fact, I think that many of the people who have taken $2 X $2 would also fight for expenses only just for a shot. $2 X $2 is the de facto "minimum bid" for the UFC, though, and clearly it does not lead to a deep and well-balanced card. If the minimum purse were $10 X $10, we would dobtless see a different class of fighter on the undercard.
As stated above, I'm not attacking Zuffa for paying those wages for the prelim fights. The market is indicating that a top-heavy card does not erode demand. The only reason to push the wages upward is if the market demands it.
I would rather see a more balanced card, but I will keep buying regardless, so I guess I am example #1.
Dana's smart.
if the minimum was 10 + 10 you would see less fights and more Xyience filler
"You are so fucking stupid, go away. It is a PRIVATE business. NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS. Please delete your account so you do not make any more stupid threads like this."
Well, youre a good little bitch arent you? It becomes public business when he comes out and makes PUBLIC statement defending the fighters pay. If the salaries are just, open up the books and prove it. If it is no ones business, do not comment on it in the first place. Release your crotch grip from Danas leg moron.
"If your stupid enough to cut my lawn for $10 bucks...Why would I pay you $20??? "
you never seen my $20.00 cut, its 3 time better then your $10.00.Your neighbors would love you and your lawn would love you.You get what you pay for,unless its a PPV