148 Falls Short on PPV Buys

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caposa - 
Illidan - 
caposa -  they are saying it did 1 mil buys, not 670k


670k in N. America
But Dana was hoping it would be more
<b><i>"But it handily beat Mania numbers as that show is estimated at 670,000 in North America.</i></b>"

They are saying that it handily beat WrestleMania numbers, which were 670k.

The current estimate is 1 million for UFC 148.
 


Yeah complete misread on my part - your right

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JumpShooter - 
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Not that difficult:



148 did 1 million buys; wrestlemania did 670K; 148 handily beat Mania numbers


Like I mentioned, I didn't know "the mania" was a nickname for wrestlemania, because I'm not homosexual. A little confusing on a site named mmamania

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What did the TUF: Brazil finale do? Phone Post

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Chris27 - No full Primetime, no FX/Fox promo, two weeks after another PPV, June had 3 free shows in it.


As I've said before, saturating their product has it's drawbacks. One of the big ones includes less attention and hype for the big cards.

But for Zuffa it's all good, I assume the added exposure of the free cards, advertising, etc. makes up for it?

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OK WTF is going on?

It says it did a mill, it says Wrestlemania did 670k domestically, which I assume means US or North America.

But Wrestlemania did something like 1.1 to 1.2 mill total.

So what are they saying? Did the UFC did a million in North America which is more than the 670k WWE did in North America? So then whats the total for the rest of the world?

Is the UFC on PPV anywhere else in the world? is the WWE different? Cause Brazil, UK etc they get the UFC PPV on tv not PPV, so is the UFC different from WWE? Are WWE events on PPV all over the world and UFC isnt?

So which is it?

Either this is what the event did on PPV in North America which is more than the 670k WWE did in North America then what is the total PPV buys around the world? or is the UFC only on PPV in the US and these are the total numbers which is more than WWE did but WWE also did 600k in the rest of the world.

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WrestleMANIA did 670k. The number 670k has nothing to do with 148. They're saying estimates of 148 have already handily beaten the latest wrestlemania ppv buys.

Early estimates are over 1 million for UFC 148.

The quote is from Meltzer's site so its gonna have wrestling terms like shortening wrestlemania to mania. Phone Post

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Mania did over 1 mill total so the question is does UFC only do PPV in North America and WWE does PPV in other countries?

So the 670k Mania did is for North America but they did another 500/600k around the rest of the world making it a total of 1.1 to 1.2 mill PPV total.

So when they say UFC did a mill and thats more than the 670k I assume that means the UFC only does PPV in North America and they did a mill and WWE did 670k but that mill is more than WWE did in North America but its also the total number because UFC only does PPV in North America and WWE does PPV all over the world.

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I'll buy it when Meltzer says it...

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Tap In - 
JumpShooter - 
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Not that difficult:

148 did 1 million buys; wrestlemania did 670K; 148 handily beat Mania numbers

Like I mentioned, I didn't know "the mania" was a nickname for wrestlemania, because I'm not homosexual. A little confusing on a site named mmamania


Threw me off as well, given the site's name and I haven't watched a 'mania' since Hulk Hogan against Andre the Giant (stopped watching when my balls dropped)

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Cyril Jeff -  
I'll buy it when Meltzer says it...<br type="_moz" />



Meltzer did say it.


From Bloodyelbow

Dave Meltzer was discussing the UFC 148 buyrate on his radio show and it appears that the numbers were a disappointment to Dana White. On the show, Meltzer said it looks like 148 did roughly 1 million buys and that Dana White truly believed the show would beat UFC 100's buyrate. Dave also said that Dana texted him "this sucks" about the buyrate.

Had they not set up unrealistic expectations by publicly saying this would beat 100, there'd be no reason to look at the number as disappointing. In fact, it shouldn't be viewed as anything other than a success outside of the UFC's weird public statements.

I had said in the lead-up that anything over 750,000 buys should be considered a success, and they smashed that number. In the end, it's simply a good number. It'd just be a lot better if it happened without all that other nonsense.

In other news, it's being reported by Meltzer that the UFC 147 buyrate was somewhere between 175,000 and 200,000 buys. Which makes sense given the weakness (in terms of "big fights") of the card.

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WHats amazing is the 147 buys if thats true, if that shit did close to 200k while UFC 136 with two title fights and Sonnen/Stann and a stacked card did something like 225 to 250k thats amazing.

It really shows how much the UFC brand does sell things because 136 compared to 147 yet they do within 50k of each other is crazy.

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1 million is great, surely. Like people say, Anderson is the GOAT, but his drawing power is not in proportion.

And stop comparing to UFC 100, UFC 100 had two title fights, one that is a big draw in Canada, and Brock Lesnar, who is a massive draw in the USA. UFC 148 was a good card, with a tremendous main event, sure, but it is nowhere near UFC 100.

Man, Chael has done such good work for the UFC, I am sure he is being paid insane amounts. I wonder if he will be able to continue drawing audience though, after this last fight...

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Ahh outside of North America most people get the PPV's for free.

The rest of us enjoy the shows for free.

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Hessian - Ahh outside of North America most people get the PPV's for free.

The rest of us enjoy the shows for free.


Yeah Argentina and Brazil at least is free.

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Chris27 - OK WTF is going on?

It says it did a mill, it says Wrestlemania did 670k domestically, which I assume means US or North America.

But Wrestlemania did something like 1.1 to 1.2 mill total.

So what are they saying? Did the UFC did a million in North America which is more than the 670k WWE did in North America? So then whats the total for the rest of the world?

Is the UFC on PPV anywhere else in the world? is the WWE different? Cause Brazil, UK etc they get the UFC PPV on tv not PPV, so is the UFC different from WWE? Are WWE events on PPV all over the world and UFC isnt?

So which is it?

Either this is what the event did on PPV in North America which is more than the 670k WWE did in North America then what is the total PPV buys around the world? or is the UFC only on PPV in the US and these are the total numbers which is more than WWE did but WWE also did 600k in the rest of the world.

Speaking for the UK, HomoMania was PPV, UFC events are, ironically, on ESPNUK - which is a monthly subscription channel (£9pm). Problem is its coverage of MMA is pretty terrible, as with the whole of the UK. SkySports does a good job with UCMMA, but we're getting 5-yr old M-1 events on the extreme channel! Better than nothing though, and I suppose BAMMA on Channel5 a good step. Phone Post

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Illidan - 
Hessian - Ahh outside of North America most people get the PPV's for free.

The rest of us enjoy the shows for free.


Yeah Argentina and Brazil at least is free.


Ya I know all of Latin America is free. England it is free?

Germany and a few other countries free?

Most of Arab Gulf .. free.

So who does pay outside of North America?

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Illidan - http://www.mmamania.com/2012/7/12/3154701/ufc-148-ppv-buys-estimates-silva-sonnen



I guess early estimates didn't do justice.

Gate sold 6.5 mil though (record)



What future card you think would break UFC 100 on ppv buys?


 none..ufc isnt stacking cards anymore...people arent going to pay $60 for a 7 minute main event

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1 million ppv's is what most of us expected on the UG.

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Hey Everyone - I'm really really cool like half of the other guys on this post who keep asking what "mania numbers" are because we are way too cool to know that "mania" is short for Wrestlemania. I mean, only nerds would know that right?? So I'm going to keep asking what "mania" numbers are to make sure everyone knows I'm way too cool to know what Wrestlemania is.

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Motivated Penn - I wonder if he will be able to continue drawing audience though, after this last fight...

250k vs. Stann. He's never been a huge draw.