A PED Control study RE Placebo

Just throwing this out there.

All this testing costs money we know that so this is most likely completely impossible.

But - it is very unlikely that tests for banned metabolites have been carried out on control subjects who are  assured to be 100% PED free athletes and who are living a day to day life  (So going through the same training and dietary regimes of our fighters and still suseptable to both standard ailments and injury complications).

Say for every fighter currently tested 33.33% fail random testing. How about 100 controls who are PED free but still living the fighter lifestyle and still suseptable to having to use over the counter medicines to fight pain and flu etc - would that with the extreme exercise regimes fighters indure force banned metabolites into the blood stream?

Reason why this is important.

It would put an end to the excuse that the test results must be a mistake. (An excuse I still am holding onto for Anderson - not gonna lie - I just don't think he could do it **weeps** )

We already know that THC metabolites are 15% more prevelant after exercise. What about other metabolites?

Someone might have an answer already - there might have been controls used when setting up the original test proceedures. I am sure I'll get voted down as usual but fuck it. What do you think?

hendofanforlife - 


where does the placebo come in?



here is a clear example of the placebo effect





Yeah Placebo was just to get people to read it. I really am just interested to see if the body produces these types of metabolites under athletic duress + the chaotic mix of day to day intakes (cold and flu medication, diet, suppliments, etc etc) - So no real placebo that was a lie. And yes thats some mighty fine placebo right ther

Anderson gets caught cheating. Lets reinvent science!

Dookieshoes - Anderson gets caught cheating. Lets reinvent science!

 

Haha! Tooshay!

Science hwoever does REQUIRES controls such as what I am proposing. 

The way I see it is that the tests would have been created with controls - they must have been. But those controls would have been people at one particular moment (the moment of the test) who have not taken any PEDS VS those that have. I'm just asking if those controls have taken into account all the anomalies that fighters face when going through a training camp. 

My suggestion is that for us to be sure that outside factors do not taint test results the pool would have to be larger and the tests conducted on individuals who are placing their bodies through the same trauma over a sustained period.

Does that not seem logical? Perhaps impossible to carry out but it makes sense in principle to me.

And I am not going to label AS a cheat till all the facts are in.

hendofanforlife -


where does the placebo come in?



here is a clear example of the placebo effect



Jay cutler is placebo free!!!!

Just uses muscle tech products. Phone Post 3.0

Anyone taking placebos should be banned for life. 

Soup and Beer - 


Anyone taking placebos should be banned for life. 


Yesss! Ban placebos! Unfair I say

[b]I really am just interested to see if the body produces these types of metabolites under athletic duress + the chaotic mix of day to day intakes (cold and flu medication, diet, supplements, etc etc) [/b]

No.

The only way you can test positive for drostanolone metabolites are if you directly inject drostanolone into your body.

I guess Anderson just stumbled and accidental fell on a bunch of drostanolone loaded syringes?