I’m still new to watching Greco Roman so I am not sure what happening. What were they doing when they were leaning against each other? Who gets the top position when the ref breaks them up?
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I love wrestling, and Karelin, but the nuances of greco have always been a mystery.
The rules sucked then. Way better nowadays.
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Greco is so fuckin boring.
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I know amateur wrestling is one of the toughest sports on earth and how it’s supposed to be the best base for MMA and blah blah blah, but damn, it looks so faggy. Dudes in little shorts with tank top straps grinding their taints on the back of each other’s necks, getting taken down and immediately rolling over like they’re trying to get it doggy style, etc. And that’s just freestyle.
Greco is almost as gay but it’s like watching soccer. Basically nothing happens the whole match and then everyone is supposed to freak the fuck out once somebody finally scores.
Booo.
Freestyle is also shit compared to folkstyle. Folkstyle you actually have to control/escape. Freestyle they just let people back up, or do these gay back exposing rolls that’re just gaming for points and have no real application.
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At the first (when they were ‘leaning’ against each other), they were fighting for position. Karelin kept trying to get the two on one outside tie (the Russian two on one). Opponent would try to defend and then karelin would come across and try an arm drag. The opponent also tried to get a two on one a time or two and tried a back step shoulder throw, but mostly he was being defensive. I think the ref called him for stalling and thus gave karelin the top position, but I’m not really that familiar with Greco, so I could be wrong.
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Coach Carl Adams explains the 2 on 1 pretty well in this video from 12:30 to about 16:10. A lot of the moves he shows off of the Russian 2 on 1 are for freestyle and folkstyle, but he shows some that can be used in Greco too.
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Fuck that Russian juice monkey piece of shit. Greco is gay anyway. He’d have gotten owned in freestyle.
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Greco is basically a different sport from folkstyle or freestyle. Let us start with that. Since you cannot attack the legs or trip, the stance is different and in this case even less than an inch can make a difference. What Karelin us trying to do is pull the far elbow inside to change the angle of that outside shoulder to try to slide by or go behind. This is where it’s a game of inches since the window to score, especially at this level, is very small. Karelin was good for so long because he had the strength to disrupt that positioning and was quick and technical enough to exploit those small mistakes.
As to how it is decided who goes down in par terre, the referee basically decides who is being more active and stalling less. The concept behind Greco and freestyle is basically about risk versus folkstyle being about control.
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The rules aren’t all that different now.
Scoring is way different. No clinch rule. Push outs. Two big moves gives you a tech.
Rogan ball hogs this guy like crazy
We got rid of the stupid best of 3 periods scoring. I was glad they brought back forced par terre honestly. Outside of the step out rule and no clinch rule, which I felt made sense in Greco, the rules are basically the same with minor adjustments.