Askren Not Best Wrestler in MMA

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Americans consider domestic university sports to be the highest level of athletic competition but this hype is ridiculous. Yoel Romero for example holds six Olympic and world championship medals. Askren competed in one Olympics, where he was 1-1.

I agree that MMA wrestling is different from sport wrestling. While GSP never competed in wrestling, he put wrestled US school champs like Trigg, Hughes and Fitch in the Cage. Askren taking down some Cambodian kids in MMA who never even training in wrestling before only qualifies him as the best wrestler in MMA in south-east Asia.

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who do you see outwrestling him from MW down?

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Boom Boom Mancino -

who do you see outwrestling him from MW down?

Ummm yoel

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Amateur wrestling

International Federation of Associated Wrestling Styles:

    2010 Cerro Pelado International Senior Freestyle Silver Medalist

    2010 Dave Schultz Memorial International Open Senior Freestyle Gold Medalist

    2009 Hargobind International Senior Freestyle Gold Medalist

    2009 Sunkist Kids International Open Senior Freestyle Silver Medalist

    2008 Kiev International Senior Freestyle Bronze Medalist

    2007 NYAC Holiday International Open Senior Freestyle Gold Medalist

    2007 Hargobind International Tournament Senior Freestyle Gold Medalist

    2005 Pan American Championships Senior Freestyle Gold Medalist

USA Wrestling:

    USA Senior Freestyle Olympic Team Trials Winner (2008)

    USA Junior Freestyle World Team Trials Winner (2004)

    USA Senior Freestyle National Championship (2008)

    USA University Freestyle National Championship Runner-up (2005)

    ASICS Tiger High School All-American (2002)

    West Junior Freestyle Regional Championship (2002)

    Northern Plains Junior Freestyle Regional Championship (2001, 2002)

    Northern Plains Junior Freestyle Regional Championship Runner-up (2000)

National Collegiate Athletic Association:

    NCAA Division I Collegiate National Championship (2006, 2007)

    NCAA Division I Collegiate National Championship Runner-up (2004, 2005)

    NCAA Division I All-American (2004, 2005, 2006, 2007)

    Big 12 Conference Championship (2004, 2006, 2007)

    Big 12 Conference Championship Runner-up (2005)

    Dan Hodge Trophy Collegiate Wrestler of the Year (2006, 2007)

    University of Missouri Intercollegiate Athletics Hall of Fame (2012)

National Wrestling Coaches Association:

    Schalles Award Top Collegiate Pinner of the Year (2006, 2007)

National High School Coaches Association:

    NHSCA Senior High School National Championship Runner-up (2002)

    NHSCA Senior All-American (2002)

Wisconsin Interscholastic Athletic Association:

    WIAA Division I High School State Championship (2000, 2001)

    WIAA Division I High School State Championship Runner-up (1999)

    WIAA Division I All-State (1999, 2000, 2001)

    Classic 8 Conference Championship (1999, 2000, 2001, 2002)
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Covington, Lawler, Khabib, Ferguson to name a few.

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I haven’t seen Yoel use wrestling in mma as well as Askren has imo. 

And its it’s not just wrestling thats used in mma, hence the name mma. Askren has a unique style of grappling that has some nasty wrestling for scrambles and painful control along with bjj defense with a little sub offense and ground and pound to round out his grappling style. It’s a sick style for mma.

Khabibs grappling style is also one of the best blends for mma. Always attacking and his heavy use of both strikes and submissions doesn’t cost him much in control either.

That will be a great fight to watch.

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If the goal posts are being changed from best wrestler in mma to best grappler, you have to take into account guys like Maia and Dos Anjos. As with the Olympics, Askren competed in one ADCC and went 1-1.

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Koga -

If the goal posts are being changed from best wrestler in mma to best grappler, you have to take into account guys like Maia and Dos Anjos. As with the Olympics, Askren competed in one ADCC and went 1-1.

ADCC or sub grappling is as different from mma as gi is to no gi, maybe even more. 

Khabib has the best mma grappling style imo overall but Askren is good and I think  it’s better than Khabib’s in the wrestling Dept. Better than Romero’s wrestling too for mma. All of his wrestling for mma, not just takedowns. His work on the ground also. Askren wrestling on the ground is brutal wit the safety rules in the sport of wrestling taken out.

Again, it will be a great fight.

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Khabib has beaten the best in his division, Askren’s best win was against a shot Aoki who is a featherweight. Askren is entirely unproven in the big leagues. Potential, sure, but to state he is the best wrestler in MMA is absurd.

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Koga -

Khabib has beaten the best in his division, Askren’s best win was against a shot Aoki who is a featherweight. Askren is entirely unproven in the big leagues. Potential, sure, but to state he is the best wrestler in MMA is absurd.

I don’t know who said he is the best wrestler in mma. I don’t know that he is or isn’t. I think he uses his wrestling better than Yoel and I think his wrestling is way better than Covington’s, Lawyers, and Ferguson’s. 

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Ben rules 170

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GSP crushes him

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Is that why so many high level college wrestlers medaled at worlds last week? Because college doesn’t mean shit?

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His style of wrestling is perfect for MMA. Funk style is scramble based. 

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I regret that we never got to see Kurt Angle in MMA. He's one of the toughest motherfuckers ever. Too bad MMA wasn't much of an option when he went the pro wrestling route and destroyed himself. I'm probably delusional, but even though he's 50 years old I think if he could pass the physicals and get licensed he'd be in the top 10 at HW right now (ha ha, only partly kidding about that...HW sort of sucks...).

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Dead President -

GSP crushes him

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You can see his admiration for Keith Gavin. "Thanks for not ducking me"

 

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he lost to johnny hndrix in wrestling, if that means anything to y'all

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ranier wolfcastle - 

he lost to johnny hndrix in wrestling, if that means anything to y'all

In high school and Johny ducked him later on.

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Bens funky folk style game translates perfectly into mma like no other. Guy is a freak