Gustaffson didn't outmove shit, he ate more right hands from Shogun than anyone I've ever seen. Dude has a granite chin though cause he just kept walking through them. 
OnlyTheStrongSurvive -Lazer MMA -
Jack:
TY sir. I am surprised VERY MUCH by your inclusion of Fedor here with his wide and somewhat wild boxing strikes. When did he ever alter that technique exactly?? And PLEASE how do you see the fight of PRIME Fedor and JDS playing out. IMO JDS with his seemingly superior boxing would have the advantage. What would Fedor do??
One would think you'd put Hendo who evolved and worked so hard on his boxing above Fedor. Per your GIF on your last thread which Showed Shogun eating the short straight right when trying for the lead upper cut in the first minute of the fight and your comments on Hendo's superior striking.Look at Jack's archives bloody elbow. He has a few articles on Fedor
I will TY sir
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mma shill -First let me say, I love your articles and I hope you keep them coming. Since reading your articles, I've realized that I don't have a very good understanding of striking at all in mma. I thought the Diaz bros and BJ Penn were some of the best strikers in mma until you pointed out many of their flaws. Now it seems like every mma fighter is a bad striker that doesn't even understand the basics. I'm wondering who you think are the top five best strikers in mma and why?
I dont think the fact that BJ got beat by a guy who looked about 30lbs bigger than him means he's not one of the best LW strikers in the game. The only times he's clearly lost at LW are against Jens Pulver, who was the champ at the time and in BJ's 4th pro fight and the Frankie rematch who did expose some flaws in BJ's inability to adapt much like Nick against Condit and Nate against Benson.
Against Ben though, I think Ben simply out MMA'd Nate. Nick vs Condit was still very close no matter who you thought won.
GSP also out MMAs guys with everything. His tds are strengthened by his striking. His striking is strengthened by his tds.
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"BJ's inability to adapt much like Nick against Condit and Nate against Benson."
I think their problem is that they have become predictable. And thats the worst thing that can happen to a striker.
Gokudamus stole my name - "BJ's inability to adapt much like Nick against Condit and Nate against Benson."
I think their problem is that they have become predictable. And thats the worst thing that can happen to a striker.
No, for once Goldie was saying the correct thing. The game has evolved PERIOD. Look at the diverse amount of striking weapons and techniques he was attacked with.
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Lazer MMA -Gokudamus stole my name - "BJ's inability to adapt much like Nick against Condit and Nate against Benson."
I think their problem is that they have become predictable. And thats the worst thing that can happen to a striker.
No, for once Goldie was saying the correct thing. The game has evolved PERIOD. Look at the diverse amount of striking weapons and techniques he was attacked with.
TTT for Jack to answer the questions near the bottom of the last page or does he just admit the data supplied is inaccurate?
Yes because BJ has never in his career fought someone who could kick/knee/elbow. These comments are made every time someone loses, a year from now maybe Rory gets laid out by Hendricks wild left hand, does that mean the game has evolved or regressed back into wrestling + boxing? You cant extrapolate like that
Dogmeat 1 - Jack Slack writes by far the best striking analysis of MMA fighters out there. Some people get upset because he points out potential weaknesses with their favourite fighter (no fighter is perfect; everyone has some area that is weaker than others) but so many times his analysis of fighter's strategies, footwork and defence has been spot on.
Who is upset here?
TTT for Jack to answer the questions near the bottom of the last page or does he just admit the data supplied is inaccurate?
Gokudamus stole my name -Lazer MMA -Gokudamus stole my name - "BJ's inability to adapt much like Nick against Condit and Nate against Benson."
I think their problem is that they have become predictable. And thats the worst thing that can happen to a striker.
No, for once Goldie was saying the correct thing. The game has evolved PERIOD. Look at the diverse amount of striking weapons and techniques he was attacked with.
TTT for Jack to answer the questions near the bottom of the last page or does he just admit the data supplied is inaccurate?
Yes because BJ has never in his career fought someone who could kick/knee/elbow. These comments are made every time someone loses, a year from now maybe Rory gets laid out by Hendricks wild left hand, does that mean the game has evolved or regressed back into wrestling + boxing? You cant extrapolate like that
The top end (best fighters), the technical boxing is MUCH better than it was 10 years ago, it's not even close (as seen when Nick fought BJ as an example). Further the level (of skill) of multiple MA's demonstrated in fight was not seen at that time either (why BJ was dominated in the striking game as bad as he was).
Froggin Bullfish -Jack Slack -mma shill - First let me say, I love your articles and I hope you keep them coming. Since reading your articles, I've realized that I don't have a very good understanding of striking at all in mma. I thought the Diaz bros and BJ Penn were some of the best strikers in mma until you pointed out many of their flaws. Now it seems like every mma fighter is a bad striker that doesn't even understand the basics. I'm wondering who you think are the top five best strikers in mma and why?<br /> <p> I'm always reluctant to name the top strikers in MMA because everyone makes mistakes and errors. That's not just in MMA but in the highest levels of professional boxing and bjj. Nobody achieves perfection.</p> <p> It's impossible to stay disciplined all the time, the greats are the ones who can stay discplined the longest. I consider Manny Pacquiao one of the most technically disciplined boxers of all time - in, moves his head, exits on an angle. But just the other day Marquez was able to catch him getting wild.</p> <p> In truth there is a great deal of underemphasis on angling, handfighting and the actual science of striking in a lot of top level camps even in boxing and kickboxing. Fighting tends to be approached in a combinations and cover up way, with an emphasis on power and conditioning rather than science.</p> <p> </p> <p> I suppose the criteria for best MMA striker from a scientific standpoint would be based in discipline and versatility. Guys who can adapt their style against anyone: like AS, GSP, Fedor when he was fighting. There's very few guys who can adapt their striking style to the opponent.</p> <p> The next tier down would be guys who have a pretty samey striking game in every fight but still execute it flawlessly - like JDS, Aldo etc.</p> <p> Then there's the guys who do the same thing in every fight but have had their flaws exposed already but can beat MOST guys with their A game like Belfort, Penn the Diaz brothers.</p> </blockquote> Jack, can you elaborate on head movement and footwork in mma? Fedor has great striking, doesn't mind staying in the pocket, and has an uncanny ability to be 5x moves ahead of his opponents to find openings to attack, but do you feel he has limited mobility that makes him susceptible to younger and faster competition? Also, and I know Arlovskei has had some rough years as of late, but what is your take on his striking?<br /> <br /> Thanks! <img alt="Phone Post" border="0" src="/images/phone/apple.png" style="vertical-align:middle;" /></blockquote>
I rate Arlovksi as one of the most exciting offensive fighters in the sport - unfortunately he has TERRIBLE defence. He moves his hands towards his opponent's punches and backs straight up which basically just exposes his fairly poor chin on a platter. If his opponents let him work though he has some wonderful combinations.
Fedor is just a case of someone buying into the hype around their own punching power. It happened to Naseem Hamed, Roy Jones, Mike Tyson etc. They believed they could knock guys out so they got really sloppy swinging bombs instead of using the technique that got them their ferocious reputation. From about 2007 Fedor was just jumping on guys and swinging, it's a testament to how much better he was than the rest of the heavyweight division that he beat up Sylvia, Rogers and Arlovski when he was very clearly limiting himself with sloppy form and a lack of strategy.
Lazer MMA -Dogmeat 1 - Jack Slack writes by far the best striking analysis of MMA fighters out there. Some people get upset because he points out potential weaknesses with their favourite fighter (no fighter is perfect; everyone has some area that is weaker than others) but so many times his analysis of fighter's strategies, footwork and defence has been spot on.
Who is upset here?
TTT for Jack to answer the questions near the bottom of the last page or does he just admit the data supplied is inaccurate?
What data are we talking about?
Jack,
Do you have an opinion on Mousasi?
Lazer MMA -
Jack:
TY sir. I am surprised VERY MUCH by your inclusion of Fedor here with his wide and somewhat wild boxing strikes. When did he ever alter that technique exactly?? And PLEASE how do you see the fight of PRIME Fedor and JDS playing out. IMO JDS with his seemingly superior boxing would have the advantage. What would Fedor do??
One would think you'd put Hendo who evolved and worked so hard on his boxing above Fedor. Per your GIF on your last thread which Showed Shogun eating the short straight right when trying for the lead upper cut in the first minute of the fight and your comments on Hendo's superior striking.
Hi Jack
Can you supply a few shot opinions sir. TY
yabadaba -
Jack,
Do you have an opinion on Mousasi?
I have a very high opinion of Mousasi, unfortunately he is a real meat and potatoes fighter. His stand up is the basic boxing arsenal done really well. He relies a lot on timing, and if that is off he looks out of sorts.
Where Machida or Anderson have crazy techniques they go to and can throw people off even on a bad night, Mousasi can look really poor if his timing isn't on and incredible if it is.