Rickmassmma -UltimateKeyboardWarrior -Rickmassmma -RockTheVote -akbar87 -RockTheVote -Tug Dabone -Kind of sad, seeing some of the reactions here.
Rohskopf is not a "quitter."
The guy was a D1 wrestler who won the ACC championship and had 5 pro fights, 1 ammy fight, and multiple grappling competitions before last night.
Any of you ever wrestle? Any idea what it takes to be good enough to get a college scholarship and then excel at the D1 level?
The guy took a short notice fight and made weight. He was taking a beating and knew he had nothing left. His coach ignored his requests to call it. Go watch the Thomas Gifford vs. Mike Davis fight to see what can happen to a guy whose corner is run on high testosterone and low common sense. These fighters don't have to be beaten to a pulp to gain respect. When you're done, you're done, whether it's a tap to a sub or turtling up to take strikes until the ref calls it. I don't give a fuck that he called it between rounds. He deserves respect for getting in there in the first place.
Gifford was out from the bell and taking way more damage than Max. Max won the first round. He had a path to victory. Gifford had no chance. Very different circumstances .
2 judges gave the first to hubbard and all 3 a 10-8 in rd 2 he needed a finish to win
Cool. He's a high level wrestler and submission expert who has already landed multiple takedowns in this fight. He wasn't taking a beating, he was tired. Corners have to talk guys through fatigue all the time. Drysdale was trying to save the kid from making a decision he's gonna regret for the rest of his life. Anthony Smith. Thomas Gifford. One of the female title fights. Recent examples of fights I would have stopped. They were taking career altering beatings. This kid was tired and wanted out mentally. You push a guy through that. I did it at my fight team practice yesterday for a few guys. There's honor in going back out there and taking your loss. The moral victory of surviving fifteen minutes.
The problem is, he totally fucked the kid. Had he just stopped it the first time the kid muttered it under his breath, then commented briefly after about how he could see the kid had nothing left after taking the fight on 5 days notice, he wanted to protect his guy etc…we likely wouldn’t have even noticed, and the story line would be very different today.
Instead, it becomes about manhood, the video goes viral, and he’s defending his actions, which further buries the kid…and if you hear the way Dana defended the kid? Yeah, he felt as though the fight should have been stopped but was saying things like “sometimes you find out this game isn’t for you.”
So now not only did the kid lose, he looks like a mentally weak quitter who isn’t cut out for MMA instead of a kid who gassed out after taking the fight on 5 days notice and just dropped the second round 10-8 on all the cards.
Corners stop fights all the time, and it’s never a big story, definitely not for a prelim. Drysdale’s refusal made it a story, made everyone pay attention, and I’d be surprised if the kid gets another shot in the UFC anytime soon. Had he just stopped it when the kid asked? He likely gets another fight on a full camp after taking this on short notice.
Drysdale did what the kid paid him to do. Drysdale tried to get the kid to not quit on himself.
How often have you seen a UFC fighter quit on the stool when he wasn’t seriously injured?
Not too many times.
Disagree? Please point out the times that UFC fighters quit on the stool when they weren’t injured.
Thanks
you guys are missing the point. The only reason we know he quit on the stool is because Drysdale wouldn’t stop it. I completely understand pushing him, I get it 100%. I trained MMA for years, used to be a personal trainer…I understand needing to be pushed, or to push people. However, he fucked his guy in this case because he made the guy as 9 times to stop it, and everyone (including Dana) now thinks the kid doesn’t belong.
Because he quit on the stool. The thing his coach tried to talk him out of.